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A cool thing is, you can achieve the same effect by rotating the table in a circle (if possible) until you find a stable angle, since for 4 points on a circle there has to exist at least one rotation angle where they are on the same elevation.

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Iโ€™ve done this with my dinner table several times.

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Problem is, that you might have to move the table legs through the floor to archive the desired result

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I donโ€™t think thatโ€™s exactly right. to create a plane you only need 3 points and 4th point can be on a different height than that plane. A different thing is when the ground itself is uneven and you manage to make both fit to the same shape.

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Thereโ€™s no guarantee you can draw a circle through the bottom of the four legs of a table (opposite legs can be off in the same direction). Also, most floors are not perfectly flat, therefore you canโ€™t assume the floor is at one elevation.

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Is there mathematical proof for this? It sounds like it could be true, but also sounds like you could actively create a floor which it wasnโ€™t true for

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This is one of those things that works in a simulated environment but not in practice in the real world.

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It does work in the real world, as long as the floor is the problem, and the table is perfect.

Most of the time at a restaurant, itโ€™s the table thatโ€™s been beaten up and is no longer even.

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Iโ€™m pretty sure this doesnโ€™t account for any floor that isnโ€™t a flat plane.

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It doesnโ€™t require a flat plane ground, but it does require the table legs to be equal in length

https://youtu.be/aCj3qfQ68m0

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This requires the legs to be all the same height and the floor to cause the wobble. That doesnโ€™t happen often irl, but Iโ€™ve done it a few times and it always makes me happy when it works

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Do you know for a four legs table no matter the floor it sits on. There is always a rotational position where all itโ€™s legs touch ground at the same level.

For circular tables that are uneven you can just rotate the table until it sits right.

For square tables you may check the 90ยฐ angles to see if you are lucky.

Edit: This theory works with even legs + uneven (bumpy) floors. For your own safety do not test this the other way around.

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Thatโ€™s just so wildly not true that I canโ€™t believe you didnโ€™t work it out for yourself in the time it took you to type that up.

To test your theory, envision a floor that is a perfectly level pane of glass. Then picture a 4 legged table where one leg is just an eighth inch shorter than the other 3.

You can spin that table all day and thereโ€™s never going to be a position where it doesnโ€™t wobble.

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Yep, it works the other way around. Even legs uneven floor.

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Interesting that it works the other wayโ€ฆI assume that in that scenario, thereโ€™s also no guarantee that the table would be anywhere close to level in whatever position eliminates wobble?

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@daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com is citing a mathematical proof that basically states if you have a table whose feet form 4 points on a flat rectangle, that table can find a stable resting spot anywhere on an uneven surface only by rotating the table, you do not have to translate the table, only rotate it.

Your example, while practical, breaks that model because it only works if the continuous surface is uneven and the four independent points are coplaner. If you make the reverse true, with a table that has 4 even legs and put it on a floor that can be described as two triangles (what you would get if you connected 3 even length legs and one shorter) you could rotate the table to find somewhere all four legs touch.

This is why it is very important for us woodworkers to make table and chair legs the same length, or failing that, add adjustable feet, becasue us carpenters donโ€™t know what the fuck weโ€™re doing.

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Not really how that works, but I dig the enthusiasm!

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How do you fuck up posting a link so damn bad.

Youโ€™re terrible at scamming, you should be ashamed of yourself!

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What was the broken link? Itโ€™s edited now and goes to an Amazon page.

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The formatting was crazy it was like [come get this scammy thing](more scammy shit)note scammy shit)(phishing.link)

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Swing and a miss there pal.

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Wood? I just keep folding cardboard until itโ€™s the proper thickness.

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Cardboard is wood with extra steps.

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Okay but like a shim or just a broken discarded piece of 2x4?

Or I guess the chaotic evil version of this is a twig with leaves on it.

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