Fuck everything that’s happening. I have nowhere else to fucking yell. I am so frustrated with the absolute stupidity and proud-ignorance in this world. Fuck!!!
No not only the USA. Here in europe people are mass voting for fascist parties and in germany even for straight up nazis.
Racism, sexism, homophobia and transphobia are becoming very accepted in public among anyone on the right and nothing is being done about it.
The boost in support in the far right is concerning in Europe however it is also over reported and the media often fails to understand the political systems.
Most European countries have proportional representation.
In Germany AFD won 16% of the vote. They came joint second which made headlines but 16% is low. Worst case is they could conceivably join a coalition in a split Bundestag. But AFD are not currently realistically close to power.
In France, the far right was 33% of the vote, again making headlines and troubling. However that is in the first round. France has a second round where the 67% can coalesce around candidates. It’s troubling but the far right is not getting a majority in the French parliament, and it remains unlikely they would won the presidency as the left and centre out weigh them.
In the UK Reform is polling around the same level as the Conservatives at about 18%. In the UK’s system its first past the post so it looks like they’re get a few seats at most - literally 5 - put of 650 seats. The UK is looking very likely to elect a centre left party to power with a huge majority, mainly due to the implosion of the conservative party.
While these are all concerning and reflect lots of local trends, there is a huge difference with the US. In the US the republican party is viable for the presidency, the house and the senate and already hold the supreme court.
The US is in a far worse position than almost any European country when it comes to the extreme party being at the doors of power. Europe has much work to do, but the US is fucked because its much vaunted electoral system and constitution has been shown to be extremely weak and fatally flawed, and seems to be unfixable.
I feel like a lot of this is exported from America. There certainly seems to be some lag between the nonsense we see in the us and the rest of the world
This is because of tolerance. Those on the left teach and preach it. They turn their noses up. Act like it isn’t there, or avert their eyes and call it someone else’s problem.
Bluntly speaking: Y’all spineless up until there is no other choice.
Last year or so I’ve both heard and read far less of the “I can’t protest because I need this job/money/don’t have days off/[insert excuse here]”. The writing has been on the proverbial wall for quite some time, in big bold neon, blinking letters. When you all stop arguing with one another, and stop working hard to displace responsibility, many on the Left have proven they can actually read.
Yes, I’m a bit annoyed. For years, both online and off, I’ve been saying the same shit. Recently, I’ve begun to feel vindicated, and you know what? It fucking sucks.
Hold hands, it’s up to us now.
This is what Democrats need. For the younger generations to be the adults in the room. It’s been time for it a over a decade ago. They should have been preparing lines of succession during the Obama era.
It’s pointless posturing. Thanks to people not turning out to vote in 2022, the Republicans control the House. They’re not going to support this.
Kinda tired of this take. Corporations and the billionaires who control them have captured our democracy and they’re not going to support this either. But sure, darn those hypothetical and inevitably too-leftist non-voters!
Corporations aren’t suddenly going to stop being evil. You can sit around and blame them all you want, but that’s not going to change anything.
If a plane falls out of the sky, do you go around blaming gravity? It’s ultimately the cause, but doing so is pointless. Instead, you concentrate on the things that can be changed.
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/07/12/voter-turnout-2018-2022/
That’s not what the data says. Interestingly, Republicans didn’t vote more frequently than Dems.
Your own sources says that the 20% of people who voted in a previous election but not 2022 are mostly left leaning.
There will be no 2028 election.
Plenty of dictators still have elections. Well, they call them elections at least.
So I guess it will at least be called an election.
You mean because the democrats will throw all the republicans contenders in prison?
This has to be the dumbest shit I’ve seen anyone type in a long long time.
I doubt Republicans will support this. Really it comes down to if Biden is going to use his newly gained “official” immunity and look like a dictator, or if Trump gets elected who will most definitely use a cover of immunity to target his political foes. Maybe this is Democrats attempt at we tried to be civil, but you gave us no other choice.
However, this doesn’t go far enough quick enough to revoke the latest decision by the Supreme Court. What the Supreme Court has done is actually told the Jan. 6 rioters that under a Trump presidency that a dictatorship is permitted. It doesn’t matter if they are impeached, replaced or the decision is reversed. Trump will do as he pleases and point to this moment and say “look, they said it was fine and Democrats didn’t respect the rule of law.”
comes down to [whether] Biden is going to use his newly gained “official” immunity and look like a dictator,
Trends indicate a strong no.
or [whether] Trump gets elected who will most definitely use a cover of immunity to target his political foes
Direct statements strongly indicate yes.
I can appreciate your frustration and I share that sentiment, but the Supreme Court changed nothing with the “immunity” decision. No one that follows legal procedure was surprised by this, and anyone claiming to be is either ignorant or is intentionally conflating the significance. Presidential immunity has been a thing for a long time and SCOTUS has changed nothing.
Oh really? Do you mind going ahead and sharing your law license? I’d like to ensure the person trying to give me advice right now is also an attorney.
I know links are difficult, but if you just place your cursor over that underlined portion of the text and press the left button on the mouse, it will transport you to an entirely different site with relevant information that you can debate yourself over.
Also, assuming I was a lawyer, why would I try to prove that in any meaningful way? Do you not understand the concept of IANAL? Also, no such thing as a “law license” in the US. Also also, clarifying the first three sentences of a very basic wikipedia page is hardly “advice”.
All SCOTUS did was confirm that a precedent set before Nixon still stands. This was confirmed once again by the courts during B Clintons terms. But confirming it yet again, for the third time since being set, is suddenly an affront to justice? They basically repeated themselves a third time. Then they kicked it back for the court to determine whether or not the act was official or not. Click a fucking link. Read a fucking book.
Or stay basic. IDGAS. You right now are no different in any way than trumpers who claim that trump’s convictions were a show trial and that no one was injured by his acts. Bury your head in the sand and pretend to be incensed. Or, don’t be afraid to have a little integrity. You’ll get downvoted for posting something unpopular, and you’ll have to deal with the occasional twat that’s too lazy to check their facts. But I suppose that’s the point of integrity. Doing the right thing with no expectation of reward. But the hubris of rubes can be its own reward. So thanks for that. 🙏
Would it be legal for Biden to assassinate them? Asking for a friend.
Only if he orders the CIA to do it, it’s a personal act if he does it himself
He could declare the new Department of No Malarkey, appointment himself Chief DeMalarkier, and then declare a Malarkey Ceasing Spree.
No, because if he did, he would appoint new justices that would strike down the “presidents are kings” ruling.
Only in so much as the Supreme Court decides that it is “legal”.
So the details are that the Supreme Court left it open to interpretation as to what could be considered an “Official Act”. If the Supreme Court decides your murder spree is an “Official Act” you are good to go.
So if the Supreme Court Justices are conservative when Biden goes to trial, then yes, he can be found guilty.
Assassination is a good thought experiment because of this. It is literally up to “someone” to decide if X act was official.
And that someone will more than likely be the Supreme Court for a lot of things.
As much as I hate the political drama, Biden really needs to do something completely ridiculous to show everyone that this ruling isn’t sustainable.
He won’t though. And this shit will drag on and spiral with no checks.
I bet if you killed everyone on the court and in the legislature and replaced them with your personal sycophants, they would probably agree it was an ‘official act’
That’s basically the entire republican plan. It’s all spelled out in Project 2025. Literally replacing the entire government with Trump loyalists, and military tribunals for anyone who cannot be directly fired and replaced. Trump has even said that Mitch McConnell is going to be tried in front of a military tribunal.
As a note here, military tribunal means no due process, and no defense. Just straight to the guilty verdict and death penalty.
Would it be legal for Biden to assassinate them? Asking for a friend.
I realize you’re likely being rhetorical, but in case you or any other users are actually curious, the fact of the matter is that criminal acts, including assassination, are not protected by presidential immunity. Here’s a breakdown:
Official Acts are things the President does as part of their job, like signing laws, directing the military, and managing foreign policy.
Criminal Acts are illegal activities, and they are not protected by presidential immunity. Assassination is definitely illegal and falls under this category.
The Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments guarantee due process of law, meaning that the government cannot deprive anyone of “life, liberty, or property” without fair legal procedures and protections. Additionally, Executive Order 12333, explicitly prohibit the U.S. government from engaging in assassination.
In Nixon v. Fitzgerald (1982): The case granted the President immunity from civil damages for official acts, but clarified that this doesn’t apply to everything a President does. Unofficial acts, like crimes, are not protected.
In Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer (1952): The Supreme Court ruled that President Truman’s seizure of steel mills was unconstitutional. Even though it was for “official use” and it was for “the good of the country” it was nevertheless deemed not part of his presidential powers and therefore not covered.
Presidential immunity protects certain official actions, but it doesn’t cover illegal activities. Assassination would be an unofficial act and is definitely prosecutable.
