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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

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(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this)

25 points

speaking of the Godot engine, here’s a layered sneer from the Cruelty Squad developer (via Mastodon):

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a post from Consumer Softproducts, the studio behind Cruelty Squad:

weve read the room and have now successfully removed AI from cruelty squad. each enemy is now controlled in almost real time by an employee in a low labor cost country

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9 points

chef’s kiss, no notes

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and also speaking of Godot — does anyone doing game dev right now have a good source for placeholder assets? I just finished all the introductory tutorials for the engine and now I want to flex what I’ve learned a bit

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Itch and Kenney have good ones:

https://itch.io/game-assets/free

https://kenney.nl/assets (all CC0)

Synty also has a nice placeholder pack for $7. The post-it notes are kind of adorable:

https://syntystore.com/products/polygon-prototype-pack

I don’t think most of these are made for Godot, so you may have to mess around with import settings or set up tilesets/materials yourself

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nice! it seems like Kenney’s a pretty popular choice for this kind of thing. I’m kinda tempted to grab their Asset Forge tool to quickly bang out some lo-fi semi-custom models, but I don’t know how its workflow looks for animations and materials. in the worst case, maybe it’ll save me from half of the spiral learning curve that is Blender?

the synty pack looks really good! at a glance it seems like their assets come rigged for Unity — maybe there’s a converter that’ll allow me to convert that rigging into the format Godot’s animation system wants

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In other news, Hindenburg Research just put out a truly damning report on Roblox, aptly titled “Roblox: Inflated Key Metrics For Wall Street And A Pedophile Hellscape For Kids”, and the markets have responded.

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TIL Roblox is listed on the fucking stock market.

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I think Zuckeberg has been saying the silent part out loud since day one.

People just submitted it.

I don’t know why.

They “trust me”

Dumb fucks

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Can’t really say I’m surprised that Mr Facebook takes this attitude. His whole fortune is built on the belief that aggregating and hosting content is more valuable than creating it

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14 points

As always with plagiarism, regardless of what they say they always, always, always act out of a complete disregard for the value of whatever they’re ripping off.

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14 points

I trained a neural network on all the ways I’ve said that I hate these people, and it screamed in eldritch spectra before collapsing into silence.

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hmm, I meant to link that when I saw it, guess I forgot. whoops :D

but yeah, entirely unsurprising from the guy who literally started by harvesting a pile of data and then building a commercial service off it. facebook and parentco should be ended, his assets taken for public good

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i wouldn’t want to sound like I’m running down Hinton’s work on neural networks, it’s the foundational tool of much of what’s called “AI”, certainly of ML

but uh, it’s comp sci which is applied mathematics

how does this rate a physics Nobel??

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They’re reeeaallly leaning into the fact that some of the math involved is also used in statistical physics. And, OK, we could have an academic debate about how the boundaries of fields are drawn and the extent to which the divisions between them are cultural conventions. But the more important thing is that the Nobel Prize is a bad institution.

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11 points

lol holy shit actual tweet

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Image description: tweet from the official Nobel Prize account. Text reads,

Congratulations to our 2024 medicine laureate Victor Ambros ✨

This morning he celebrated the news of his prize with his colleague and wife Rosalind Lee, who was also the first author on the 1993 ‘Cell’ paper cited by the Nobel Committee.

#NobelPrize

Blake reaction description: sighing and muttering, “yep, assholes will asshole”

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Wow. Congratulations to Rosalind Lee for her colleague and husband’s nobel. I can only dream of one day having my spouse be recognized with such prestigious accolade for something we have done.

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11 points

a friend says:

effectively they made machine learning look like an Ising model, and you honestly have no idea how much theoretical physicists fucking love it when things turn out to be the Ising model

does that match your experience? if so i’ll quote that

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11 points

That sounds about right, yeah.

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yeah, takes from physicists i know range from “wtf” to “it’s plaaausible with a streeetch”

looking through the committee, I see Ulf Danielsson is notable on AI mostly for being skeptical (he writes pop sci books so people ask him about all manner of shit)

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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62r02z75jyo

It’s going to be like the Industrial Revolution - but instead of our physical capabilities, it’s going to exceed our intellectual capabilities … but I worry that the overall consequences of this might be systems that are more intelligent than us that might eventually take control

😩

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12 points

Getting a head start on that Nobel disease.

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11 points

This work getting the physics nobel for “using physics” is reeeeeeal fuckin tangential

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10 points

Also: TL note: 11,000,000 Swedish Krona equals 11,386,313.85 Norwegian Krone

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Don’t know how much this fits the community, as you use a lot of terms I’m not inherently familiar with (is there a “welcome guide” of some sort somewhere I missed).

Anyway, Wikipedia moderators are now realizing that LLMs are causing problems for them, but they are very careful to not smack the beehive:

The purpose of this project is not to restrict or ban the use of AI in articles, but to verify that its output is acceptable and constructive, and to fix or remove it otherwise.

I just… don’t have words for how bad this is going to go. How much work this will inevitably be. At least we’ll get a real world example of just how many guardrails are actually needed to make LLM text “work” for this sort of use case, where neutrality, truth, and cited sources are important (at least on paper).

I hope some people watch this closely, I’m sure there’s going to be some gold in this mess.

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The purpose of this project is not to restrict or ban the use of AI in articles, but to verify that its output is acceptable and constructive, and to fix or remove it otherwise.

Wikipedia’s mod team definitely haven’t realised it yet, but this part is pretty much a de facto ban on using AI. AI is incapable of producing output that would be acceptable for a Wikipedia article - in basically every instance, its getting nuked.

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13 points

lol i assure you that fidelitously translates to “kill it with fire”

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10 points

Yeah, that sounds like text which somebody quickly typed up for the sake of having something.

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I’d like to believe some of them have, but it’s easier or more productive to keep giving the benefit of the doubt (or at at least pretend to) than argue the point.

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13 points

Welcome to the club. They say a shared suffering is only half the suffering.

This was discussed in last week’s Stubsack, but I don’t think we mind talking about talking the same thing twice. I, for one, do not look forward to browsing Wikipedia exclusively through pre-2024 archived versions, so I hope (with some pessimism) their disapponintingly milquetoast stance works out.

Reading a bit of the old Reddit sneerclub can help understand some of the Awful vernacular, but otherwise it’s as much of a lurkmoar as any other online circlejerk. The old guard keep referencing cringe techbros and TESCREALs I’ve never heard of while I still can’t remember which Scott A we’re talking about in which thread.

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14 points

Scott Computers is married and a father but still writes like an incel and fundamentally can’t believe that anyone interested in computer science or physics might think in a different way than he does. Dilbert Scott is an incredibly divorced man. Scott Adderall is the leader of the beige tribe.

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9 points

Scott Adderall

You Give Adderall A Bad Name

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5 points

shit wasn’t there another one

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6 points

oh you did better than I did

5 internet cookies to you

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Don’t know how much this fits the community, as you use a lot of terms I’m not inherently familiar with (is there a “welcome guide” of some sort somewhere I missed)

first impression: your post is entirely on topic, welcome to the stubsack

techtakes is a sister sub to sneerclub (also on this instance, previously on reddit) and that one has a bit of an explanation. generally any (classy) sneerful critique of bullshit and wankery goes, modulo making space for chuds/nazis/debatelords/etc (those get shown the exit)

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9 points

Now in 404media.

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you use a lot of terms I’m not inherently familiar with (is there a “welcome guide” of some sort somewhere I missed).

we’re pretty receptive to requests for explanations of terms here, just fyi! I imagine if it begins to overwhelm commenting, a guide will be created. Unfortunately there is something of an arms race between industry buzzword generation and good sense, and we are on the side of good sense.

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