134 points

She has presidential material. that’s why conservative media was so quick to try to vilify her.

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I also assume that’s why she’s pretending to play ball with Harris. If she continued being an actual progressive the Democrats would never let her get nominated.

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She better up her time line then. 20-30 years as a conservative punching bag will leave her so entangled in the media machine it will bury her.

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126 points

I don’t want her to be NYC mayor, either. I want her to be President!

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16 points

Seconded.

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You’ll have to wait at least a year (or four for the next election). She’s legally too young to run for president as she’s only 34.

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Likely not. She’d have been of age by the time she took office. It’s very slightly nebulous, but it’s more in line with precedent that she is already eligible. For further details, see Joe Biden’s initial term in Congress. He was 29 when he campaigned and was elected in the November 7th, 1972 election. He turned 30 on November 20th, making him of age when he took office in January of 1973.

AOC will turn 35 before the election even takes place, which suggests that she has even more of a claim to eligibility than Biden would have in '72. It’s all moot now, as the DNC (probably wisely, from the look of things now) chose to make the easier transition to the sitting VP as their candidate. There were several advantages to this strategy, but that’s a different discussion.

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Ah, I thought she had just turned 34. In any case, yeah, the ship has sailed.

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As much as this is the dream, she is not electable in American politics for president.

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22 points

American society is clearly too far behind

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8 points

That’s what they said about Obama.

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68 points

She’s obviously Bernie’s heir apparent and will replace him as The Left Wing Democrat to come in 2nd in the primaries now that he’s too old and she’s old enough.

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On a more optimistic note, a true heir to Bernie will know how to negotiate with the center left to accomplish some of their goals in exchange for the support of progressives to win elections.

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Bernie is center left.

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9 points

Bernie is consistently farther left than AOC. One example: she voted to break the rail strike. He voted against.

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By American standards, I don’t think that’s true. If I’m wrong about that, that would be amazingly good news!

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36 points

I’d LOVE to see her run in 2028.

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It’s too soon. She’s young; we want her to help the progressive cause for years and decades to come. If she were to become president in 2028, she would be retiring after she served, like every other president does, and we would lose her voice.

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she would be retiring after she served, like every other president does, and we would lose her voice.

That’s not a rule, you know. John Quincy Adams served in the House after being President, Andrew Johnson became a Senator, and Taft got appointed to the SCOTUS.

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I know, but it’s precedent. And I’m sure the secret service wouldn’t love her continuing to be active in politics.

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I don’t know about Quincy adams, but the other two do not represent what I want more of in American politics

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Yeah better wait til she got old and lost her best abilities right? 8 years are 8 years no?

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Are you kidding me? She’s 34. She’s got like 30 years left until she’s old.

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Let’s imagine a best case scenario for Democrats. Let’s imagine Trump is defeated in a landslide in November. And instead of reforming their ways, the national Republican party instead takes the path of the Republican party in states like California - continuing to double-down on losing policies. In other words, barring election losses, here is a path I could see for Democratic candidates:
2024: Harris/Walz
2028: Harris/Walz
2032: Walz/AOC
2036: Walz/AOC
2040: AOC/?

Walz is currently 60. If he won in 2032 and 2036, he would be 76 when his second term ended in 2040. That’s a perfectly viable age to be president. And a seasoned Walz would balance nicely with a younger AOC. Meanwhile, AOC will be 50 in 2040, still quite young by presidential standards. And by then, she would have 8 years as VP to shake off the sense that she is too young and inexperienced.

This assumes Dems manage to win in 2024, 2028, 2032, and 2036. And that would be quite unusual by historical standards. However, considering the Republicans’ unprecedented efforts to destroy democracy, it’s not impossible. As long as they continue to champion destroying democracy, sane people, regardless of political beliefs, will recognize that they simply cannot be allowed into power until they reform their ways.

However, If there is a loss prior to 2040, I would just move AOC to the forefront. Does Harris/Walz win in 2024 and then lose in 2028? Assuming we still have real elections at that point, I would put AOC at the top of the ticket in 2032.

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Fair point.

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Being NYC Mayor is harder than being President. You’ve got the same 24/7 spotlight and much less actual power.

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If Giuliani could do it how hard can it be? Seems that you don’t even have to have a grasp on reality.

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13 points

9/11 era Giuliani was more coherent. The man is losing it.

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You mean the same Giuliani who lost an election and took a mob of racisr police to occupy city hall to prevent a black guy from being sworn in as mayor?

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9/11 era Giuliani was also more or less working directly with the Russian mob, because he did a great job in the years leading up to it of scraping out the Italian mob (say what you will about them, but at the end of the day, they were staunch anti-fascists), leaving an enormous power vacuum that the Russian mob quietly filled. It was very much a situation of “better the devil you know” that was categorically and intentionally ignored. Organized crime is of course not great, but at the same time, the Russian mob is on a whole different level - not to mention, they’re effectively a branch of the Russian state.

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The man is losing it.

LOL that happened a long time ago.

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9/11 era Giuliani was more coherent. The man is losing it.

Chronic alcoholism finally caught up with him.

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In some ways you have more concentrated power.

To quote a mayor of NYC: “I have my own army in the NYPD, which is the seventh biggest army in the world. I have my own State Department, much to Foggy Bottom’s annoyance. We have the United Nations in New York, and so we have an entree into the diplomatic world that Washington does not have.”

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