cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/20788199
Jessica Corbett
Sep 27, 2024
Residential buildings that Hezbollah intentionally set up a headquarters in the basement of.
Thats already a war crime by Hezbollah.
Firstly, being the second one to commit a war crime does not make the act of doing so any less heinous.
Secondly, do you have any actual evidence you’re basing that on, or is it just Israel’s word you’re taking? Because we know for a fact that Israel bombed civilians, and as far as I’ve seen, it’s just hearsay that they were targeting actual Hezbollah members. On the other hand, we do know for fact that they’ve used this justification falsely before, so I’m disinclined to believe anything they say, frankly.
It’s literally terrorist 101 to use human shields. This tactic has been used by every insurgency in the last hundred years.
It’s why it was added as a war crime.
As for the second one to commit a war crime. If you follow the rules, but your enemy doesn’t, you will lose. This is the international equivalent of the bunch buggy no punch back bullshit that let’s people hit you with no retaliation.
Repeating the same lies “human shields” and “terrorist” doesn’t make it true.
The IDF uses Palestinians as human shields.
There are literal videos of this.
Well, it’s asymmetrical warfare. It works like that. You want everyone to line up in straight lines across a football field and take turns firing?
I purpose we have all the world’s nations choose one competitive video game, and then everyone develops their gaming team, then all potential military disputes are settled by a best of five match of the chosen game.
No wallhax.
So Isrealis are terrorists? We have actual video of them using human shields.
Secondly, do you have any actual evidence you’re basing that on, or is it just Israel’s word you’re taking?
I mean, high ranking Hezbollah members do keep dying in these strikes, possibly including Nasrallah in this latest one. Sure Israel are still dicks for accepting the levels of civilian casualties that come along with it but the strikes do seem to be hitting actual targets.
The targets (so far):
Israel killed more than 700 people, including 50 children and 94 women, in air strikes it conducted across Lebanon since September 23.
At least 1,835 Lebanese people were wounded in the attacks, the country’s Ministry of Public Health said.
In addition to the entire genocide still going on in Gaza and ramping up in the West Bank
your comment will be downvoted coz lemmy is full of left wingers who prefers to instill their lame ass rhetorics than see the fact that it was hamas and their asswipe cronies that handed israel the reason on a silver platter.
lets not forget,these hamas terrorist supporters had no qualms using civilians as shields,israel just decided to even the playong field.
Stop pushing this BS to justify Israel’s Genocide. On the subject of Human Shields, there are some independent reports for past conflicts of Hamas jeopardizing the safety of civilians via Rocket fire in dense urban areas, two instances during Oct 7th, but no independent verification since then so far. None of which absolve Israel of the crime of targeting civilians under international law:
Intentionally utilizing the presence of civilians or other protected persons to render certain areas immune from military attack is prohibited under international law. Amnesty International was not able to establish whether or not the fighters’ presence in the camps was intended to shield themselves from military attacks. However, under international humanitarian law, even if one party uses “human shields”, or is otherwise unlawfully endangering civilians, this does not absolve the opposing party from complying with its obligations to distinguish between military objectives and civilians or civilian objects, to refrain from carrying out indiscriminate or disproportionate attacks, and to take all feasible precautions to spare civilians and civilian objects.
Additionally, there is extensive independent verification of Israel using Palestinians as Human Shields: IDF uses Human Shields, including Children (2013 Report), and in the latest war Israel “Systematically” Uses Gaza Children as Human Shields, Rights Group Finds
israel lost the plot,that much is certain.
as of now,hamas handed israel the golden key and israel will not hesitate to use it to the fullest.
genocide or not,until hamas is exterminated,israel will not face any consequences for their actions.
If the only thing stopping you from doing war crimes is a reason then your a scumbag.
That’s what so many are unwilling to aknowledge. Civilian deaths are only issue for the western nations. Not to these extremists. Being martyred lands them into heaven. Not only is this a non-issue for them but it’s actually a good thing. They get to heaven and western media will slam Israel for it. Win-win.
Not willing to, but having to because there’s a terrorist HQ / ammunation storage in the basement or a missile launcher on the school / mosque / hospital yard that they themselves didn’t agree to.
Biden instantly sending 8 Billion dollars in weapons really says it all. The US is planning to let Netanyahu bomb everything he wants. When they strike back in kind the US will use it as a pretense send in troops to start a war with Iran.
A smart move by Netanyahu. He knows he needs to get rid of Iran or they will outpace Israel. Now that Israel fully controls America this is the time to start their war with Iran with impunity.
They don’t fully control America though. Most of us didn’t even realize the actual situation until this year. The Palestinians just got lumped in under terrorism and that was that. The new media exposure is turning that around. If you look at our response to apartheid in South Africa it’s tracking pretty closely. The halls of power didn’t want to care and the people forced them to care.
They don’t fully control America though.
You might want to check the list before making these claims.
The worst part is the behavior of Netanyahu’s Israel is making people sympathetic to facism and Nazism, something unseen since the 1930s.
The behavior of Netanyahu isn’t making people sympathetic to fascism nor German fascism. the behavior of Netanyahu is literally fascist, the people calling out against Netanyahu are literally the opposite of sympathetic to fascism, fascism is way more than “Jew bad”, in fact the whole antisemitism is more coincidental as Jews were a larger minority group, and fascism targeted all minority groups, with Jews being the largest they also had a larger target on their backs in comparisons to other groups that also went off to the camps.
Israel does not “fully control” America (literally an antisemitic conspiracy theory).
It is literally the other way around: The US controls Israel and has the power to make them stop their genocide but chooses to send them more waepons to use for more war crimes.
I really don’t like french cheese. Am I racist with the french for that?
I really think that Germany has too much power over EU. Does this make me racist with Germans?
I understand some antisemitic may use war as a way to spread their idepology but the opposite is not true.
One person may disagree with the geopolic of this war without having any issue with the citizens of a country involved
I really don’t like french cheese. Am I racist with the french for that?
No
I really think that Germany has too much power over EU. Does this make me racist with Germans?
Germany is the country with the most seats in the EU parliament. The influence of germany is not a conspiracy theory, but a fact, therefore: No
Are Israeli politicians members of congress ? Or the house ? Ok, so maybe the comparison is bullshit.
One person may disagree with the geopolic of this war without having any issue with the citizens of a country involved
Yes, correct.
Not sure what that has to do with the fact that America is on the side of genocide of its own free will instead of being secretly controlled by Israel into being on the side of genocide 🤷
I really think that Germany has too much power over EU. Does this make me racist with Germans?
Doesn’t Germany have the largest population of all EU countries? It makes sense that the country with the largest population and largest economy might also have more influence than lower population countries.
Everything the US does starts to make sense when you realize the US government is fully owned by lobbyists and wealthy donors. The Military Industrial Complex is a trillion dollar for-profit industry with the deepest pockets in the world. The capitalists who profit from it effectively own our country.
Reagab stopped them from doing this exact same thing 40 years ago. Anyone still gonna say this administration isn’t more Zionist than usual?
Just war crime after war crime at this point.
And why not? He has virtually unlimited U.S. weapons as well as bi-partisan support from U.S. politicians. It’s as though we’re just setting our attack dog loose on everyone.
It’s fucking astonishing that we have any relationship with Israel at all these days. The U.S. gets absolutely nothing out of this one-sided relationship.
Israel offers us:
-No unique strategic military position (we have that area covered already).
-No high-value industrial benefits (no natural resources or unique trade).
-No military arsenal or manpower support (their arsenal comes from us and their personnel is quite limited).
It’s time to let them make friends with their neighbors on their own. They don’t need us to do that and we sure as fuck don’t need them.
The US is a parent sitting and watching its problem child beat the shit out of the other children in the playpark. Other concerned parents keep asking the US to do something, to which they shrug and say “kids will be kids, what can you do” while handing their child a knuckleduster.
But they do have AIPAC, which likes to pedal its influence into local US politics.
Hacking and Blackmail are Israeli strengths. The two most common theories I hear are that that elected officials are impressed with the Israeli hacking capabilities and rather keep them on our side, or they are actively exploiting those capabilities to bend politicians to their will. Seeing how Israel operates in public with innocent civilians it seems rather obvious our predicament.
The problem with hacking and intelligence is they’re vulnerable to hard power. In other words you can hack stuff but you’re not going to hack your way out of Delta raiding your office. If Israel is using their hacking and intelligence to blackmail politicians then they’re constantly one fuck away from “find out”.
Israel controlling politicians via blackmail seems to be the obvious truth for a long time.
Also a lot of technologies and systems good for collecting material for blackmail come from Israel or are associated with it. ICQ and Viber, for example. While Telegram is apparently unofficially associated.
There were rumors of Epstein’s connections to Israel and that his island was most of intended for collecting such material.
There’s plenty of spyware coming from Israel sold to governments and such.
There have been a few Israeli operations of the nature supporting that spying is what they do most, and exactly in the way most convenient for blackmail, and all the rest being secondary.
But these are not as important as for Israelis themselves it being absolutely normal to say that yes, that’s what Mossad does and should do, that’s its job - to get power base for Israel’s interests, blackmail of politicians and any crime involved. They put it in that “desperate need for survival” framing, but it’s the common idea for them.
And while what Israel does currently is disgusting, I would dream of Armenians ever having such an influence net. With very few limitations on means to achieve it.
Main thing the US gets from Israel is Market Capital Export.
Israel accounts for what, like 30-40% of all recent American acquired startups?
Do you have a source for this?
My understanding is the primary trade between the U.S and Israel is diamonds. We each export over $1B worth of diamonds and also each import over $1B worth of diamonds between one another. In the past year, the U.S. imported about half a billion dollars more from Israel than it exported to Israel (again mostly diamonds in both directions).
The diamond trade between our countries does not justify our participation in unnecessary wars (or genocides) in my opinion. It seems unlikely to be the reason we are so committed to this relationship. I think AIPAC’s financial involvement in our elections represents a much bigger reason we support Israel.
The companies making military weapons and gear for Israel can be found here according to AFSC.
The US has committed grants to Israel to buy weapons through 2028. It’s benefiting the above corporations. While not all US based, it still is just another example of our corporate overlords fiucking the world over for profits).
