cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/20788199

Jessica Corbett
Sep 27, 2024

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64 points

Firstly, being the second one to commit a war crime does not make the act of doing so any less heinous.

Secondly, do you have any actual evidence you’re basing that on, or is it just Israel’s word you’re taking? Because we know for a fact that Israel bombed civilians, and as far as I’ve seen, it’s just hearsay that they were targeting actual Hezbollah members. On the other hand, we do know for fact that they’ve used this justification falsely before, so I’m disinclined to believe anything they say, frankly.

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Being detered by human shields means that more human shields are used. It’s the same logic as refusing to pay ransom for kidnappers. The opposite would just encourage more kidnappings.

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39 points

You want evidence?? Are you some kind of antisemite?? /s

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Secondly, do you have any actual evidence you’re basing that on, or is it just Israel’s word you’re taking?

I mean, high ranking Hezbollah members do keep dying in these strikes, possibly including Nasrallah in this latest one. Sure Israel are still dicks for accepting the levels of civilian casualties that come along with it but the strikes do seem to be hitting actual targets.

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The targets (so far):

Israel killed more than 700 people, including 50 children and 94 women, in air strikes it conducted across Lebanon since September 23.

At least 1,835 Lebanese people were wounded in the attacks, the country’s Ministry of Public Health said.

In addition to the entire genocide still going on in Gaza and ramping up in the West Bank

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It’s literally terrorist 101 to use human shields. This tactic has been used by every insurgency in the last hundred years.

It’s why it was added as a war crime.

As for the second one to commit a war crime. If you follow the rules, but your enemy doesn’t, you will lose. This is the international equivalent of the bunch buggy no punch back bullshit that let’s people hit you with no retaliation.

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14 points

The IDF uses Palestinians as human shields.

There are literal videos of this.

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Unfortunately it’s not the IDF’s job to protect Palestinians. Don’t know 'bout Hezollah.

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7 points

So Isrealis are terrorists? We have actual video of them using human shields.

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Yes? I’ve never claimed they aren’t bad. The US does it too, along with pretty much every country who goes to war because international law and the rules of war are bullshit.

There are no rules in war other than “win”

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Well, it’s asymmetrical warfare. It works like that. You want everyone to line up in straight lines across a football field and take turns firing?

I purpose we have all the world’s nations choose one competitive video game, and then everyone develops their gaming team, then all potential military disputes are settled by a best of five match of the chosen game.

No wallhax.

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-7 points

Yes it does work like that, and bombing them anyways is the counter.

Would be nice if we had an easier way to solve problems, but it’s not realistic.

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38 points

Repeating the same lies “human shields” and “terrorist” doesn’t make it true.

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The leader of Hezbollah was confirmed dead in the attack, so clearly they were using human shields… They have been attacking Israel from a foreign country, and are not part of that countries military, which makes them terrorists.

You don’t like the truth, but lying about it doesnt change the facts of the matter.

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What about repeating the Truth? Because that’s what he’s actually doing.

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