I haven’t heard anything in months. Maybe there is legal trouble?
Both global and EU store still sell things. They are still active on social media. I have plenty of their products (PinePhone with keyboard case, PinePhone Pro with LoRA add-on, Pinecil, PineTab2, PineNote, PineTime) which I use often, some on a daily basis, other weekly basis. They just work. As others have pointers out they don’t do software, “just” hardware with some community fostering. If tomorrow they announce another product (not sure what that could be as, simply by listing now they are covering already a LOT) and if I need it, I would buy it without much hesitation.
Now I imagine if they don’t have anything new they don’t announce much, which is reasonable. They might not need the “buzz” as long as they manage the sales in their pipelines.
I would honestly like to see more products but arguably they already have good coverage. Let me ask you then, what do you wish they would add to their existing product line?
I would guess that they’ll be sourcing a next-gen RISC-V processor ASAP, since those will enable virtualisation. If they stick one in a laptop shell I’d probably buy it pretty quickly. Doubly so if it has EFI.
They already sell the Pinetab RISC-V so quite feasible. I’m not sure I’d buy one as I already have a Banana-Pi (SpacemiT K1 8 so not exactly “next-gen”) so my next purchase on that would probably be something that would be relatively powerful enough to “forget” it’s not ARM/AMD64 for daily usage (which we might not be very far from, not really sure).
Pine64s “problem” was they only ever did the hardware. Like they sponsor some software, but they make and sell hardware. They gained a lot of popularity from the Pinephone, but very little changed internally at Pine64. They’re still the same they always were
What? I get really annoyed at hardware companies that do software. Like, first thing I’m gonna do with anything I buy is wipe it and install my own OS. Why would you waste so much time making a forked OS?
Do one thing, and do it well.
I think you are confusing “making another fedora fork for a laptop brand” with “porting a booloader to the device” or “writing a driver for the screen”. Simply put you would not be able to use the hardware without the software. Outsourcing it to the community makes the hardware cheaper but the sideeffect is that the software will be crappy even after years of development. For some reason people aren’t very keen on writing the low level stuff.
If you compare the Espruino smart watch to the Pine64 smartwatch, it’s a night and day difference. My guess is that it’s because Espruino handles the low level stuff and let community do the fun stuff, while Pine64 leaves everything on the community. Imo you need a fulltime developer who actually spends time looking in the datasheet and figuring out, how to properly put the PineTime to sleep, not just people who peek into the docs every Saturday.
We’re talking about low level software that makes the hardware usable here, the reason that Raspberry Pi is the king of this market is because they have the software support that allows their hardware to just work. Pine64 relies on the community to do this for each of the boards they release.
Pine64’s most successful products have been the ones they release as full products with working firmware.
Just looking at the Infinitime repo, they seem alive and well, even changing EoL chips
https://github.com/InfiniTimeOrg/InfiniTime/releases/
https://github.com/InfiniTimeOrg/pinetime-mcuboot-bootloader/releases/tag/1.0.1
I was under the impression that infinitime was more of a community effort than a pine64 effort?
It is the same/similar problem that Nokia/Maemo and Sailfish/merOS have all had.
Some things are binary-blobs + NDAs and many things are still locked, the OSS community can only do so much before they hit the commercial roadblocks.
We need a complete CoreBoot + OSS silicon-chips + OSS firmware + all-community / all-commercial dual production lines.
The open-source-based company should be able to sell both the commercial locked-version and the oss-all-unlocked-version with the ability to switch infinitely between the two models.
But the world of electronics rarely will ever work or reach that level of interoperability , repairability or recycling this way. Not for a long time maybe in some distant future.
My wife has one, it’s been a long time since she have talked about it though.
She used to mention when improvements were made.
Edit: Pinephone.
FUD
