46 points

i think that the first sign of enshitification is its leaders and it seems like it’s already here.

i’m wondering what browser to switch to next.

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23 points

Lynx

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4 points

lemmyverse

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1 point

Dammit you beat me to it

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1 point

M-x eww

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16 points

Ladybird! Though it’s not slated to be fully ready till 2026

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3 points

Doesn’t it has some political issues?

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If I recall correctly, they rejected a patch to make their documentation inclusive, rather than assuming that developers were all male, calling it a political crusade. It’s not so much a political problem as a sexism issue.

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13 points

Zen browser has been an interesting experience. Librewolf & Mullvad have been great 🤠

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librewolf is my most likely bet; i want to stay away from anything chromium based.

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11 points

ladybird might become a thing someday. And if all else fails we can still use curl or emacs.

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I’ve also been trying out zen. While I really enjoy the sleek Ui and some addons it’s kind of slower than „vanilla Firefox“ which it depends on if I’m not wrong. I’ve tried on multiple machines though mainly on my work laptop which is quite beefy. I’m still using zen though so take what you want from that.

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6 points

Librewolf is firefox based but still good for now. But long term we need either another engine or a major fork of firefox not just a cleaned up copy.

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i’m aware of it and havent yet jumped the wagon because of my experience in the past w other firefox clones like iceweasel.

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This process has been underway since the project switched their focus from the Mozilla Suite to Firefox. Early Firefox was lightweight with limited features and the idea that you would add your own as extensions for the features you wanted. Then it started gaining traction and the Mozilla developers started forcing features in that should’ve been extensions. It’s been downhill ever since!

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12 points

Can confirm, this is accurate.

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A few months ago people would have still downvoted your comment, but the message has made it to everyone now. Mozilla and with that Firefox is an endangered species that needs to be steered back into safety.

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Even better, they took actual extensions and made them built-in and impossible to remove. The work was already done to keep a lightweight browser with extra features in option, and they reverted it.

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6 points

Fucking Pocket.

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6 points

Until people are donating enough money to make maintaining an open source browser doable, this will continue to happen.

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The thing is that we need a better donation system, for people to trust it.

An auditable system, and goal oriented.

I’m tired of donating to something and seeing that instead of the good project I wanted my money went to some crazy side project or to some over the top salaries for high corporate.

We need some kind of trustable platform that audits where donation money goes, and enforces binding of the donated money for the purpose it was donated for.

I got really burned with the whole wikiMedia thing. And since them I’m very cautious to who I donate to.

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The chair-person makes 2.5 million a year…

It think the problem might be they have too much money…

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9 points

Wuh oh, I’m OOTL here, what’s happening to Firefox?

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They’ve been making announcements indicating that they’re going to start focusing on chatbot/AI/LLM bullshit instead of what they should be doing, which is maintaining their web browser.

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4 points

Welp

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There’s also the news of them forcing opt-out only on tracking today or yesterday

Then there was the news that they fired one of their open source executives because he had the audacity to get cancer

Then the news that they (Mozilla) acquired an ad company because “we’re built different and we can fix her and totally not get corrupted by ads in the process”

Also the AI shit as commented

Oh and then the news where they almost sucked Putins dick and pulled FF from being accessible in Russia for a day or 2

And a bunch of other stuff that I’m probably forgetting about. And that’s just within the last year

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🤮

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8 points

Nothing. People have been memeing about it’s death for 10 years.

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I had another reply that gave a decent reason to support the meme :)

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Nothing. Lemmy hates Firefox for some reason. It’s getting old and boring seeing these posts. You can disable all the telemetry crap and anything else you want in the about:config. The fact that they let you do this automatically makes it better than most other browsers.

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3 points

Time to start using my Mullvad browser sigh.

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I dont mean to hate on Mullvad, but its got its problems too - mainly because it seems to be too unknown even to admins maintaining different services, bringing problems to its everyday use.

I tried to start using Mullvad as my daily driver, but had to go back to FF because so many of our university’s and its affliated services wouldnt work with it at all or would make it a pain to do simple tasks with all the shit web ui -services, portals and their logins that is the modern academia/work environment.

Well, at least I educated about 4 service admins about the existence of Mullvad before going grudgingly back to FF, or rather with these past years controversies, SusFox.

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