cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/20641619

[Excerpt on #Gaza: “If you really care about Gaza, vote to have a voice, so you can do something about it. And then, be ready to turn out into the streets, in the millions, and fight for it.”]

Mark Hertsgaard
Mon 23 Sep 2024 06.00 EDT

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Because if there’s one person young people are just itching to hear from it’s 86 year old Jane Fonda…

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Who is Jane Fonda.

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She used to be married to Ted Turner.

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Isn’t she that other lady from that Netflix show my mom loves?

(Which I also love but honestly not the best person for youth outreach.)

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She’s an actress that’s been around for ages and ages. She’s gotten a little more fame lately since she was on a TV show on Netflix that had pretty decent reviews.

She’s also one of those folks that comes out every 4 years and does some political theater.

Doesn’t diminish her message tho.

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She got canceled before that was a thing for protesting the Vietnam war.

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She’s the Queen of the galaxy.

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vote to have a voice

But remember, you can’t just say what you want with that voice.

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If you deny a party your voice if they oppose your views on fundamental issues, they have to win it back. If you give it to them no matter what, they know they don’t have to listen to you.

It is simple logic. But people have been throwing out all matters of logic, like denying Biden to be too senile for another term or saying it is okay to have him just be a puppet, as long as it is not Trump. And big surprise, pushing Biden away from another candidacy turned a sure Trump win into an open race.

Imagine what would happen if the Dems started to listen to the people instead of their AIPAC handlers and stopped the genocide, like the majority of Americans and especially American Jews want. They could win in a landslide. But continuing genocide seems to be more important than stopping Trump.

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I mean, it’s neat that she’s trying, but I’m not sure who the intended audience of this endorsement is. Do zoomers know the history of the Vietnam War? To my understanding, she’s pretty reviled by boomers for being anti-war.

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To my understanding, she’s pretty reviled by boomers for being anti-war.

Depends on the boomer. Some people thought what she did was important and brave, but for the people who hate her it wasn’t just that she was anti-war. A ton of celebrities were anti-war. It was that she flew out to Vietnam, embedded with the North Vietnamese army, and filmed what a lot of people considered anti-American propaganda.

I used to work in a machine shop where a bunch of the old-timers were Vietnam vets. I made the mistake of talking about Barbarella one day, and ended up with an earful about “Hanoi Jane,” and her “crimes” against America. They absolutely despised her. For a long time after that they’d all take turns asking me how my communist girlfriend was doing.

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