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Do something about it, then.

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Oh man this letter is going to be worded so sternly!

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“This letter is so VIBRANT with EXTREME ANGER that it will explode… but only metaphorically.”

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Respectfully submitted,

United Nations

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I bet they’re gonna BLAST them! In a literary sense

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this is the ultimate test of these institutions and their letters just shows they failed.

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What is the UN human rights chief supposed to do about it?

He did all that was in his power:

Volker Türk told an emergency meeting of the U.N. Security Council there must be an independent and transparent investigation of the two attacks in Lebanon on Tuesday and Wednesday where these devices exploded, reportedly killing 37 people and injuring more than 3,400 others.

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They could all say they are going to disband if Israel doesn’t stop. Why even have the UN if they can’t do anything

Or better yet expel isreal

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First of all, that’s also not in his power.

Secondly, how would disbanding the part of the UN that investigates human rights abuses help Palestinians?

Edit: Wait, you think the entire UN should be disbanded over this?

The UN is the only reason we haven’t had a nuclear war yet. Otherwise, countries wouldn’t have a neutral world forum.

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How would you react if the UN becomes the world government, so that they would finally have the power to stop wars and hunger that people always complain about?

Precisely.

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The UN should disband for not stopping Israel, something the US (Biden right now) would stop yet when Biden was criticized you defended him as ‘there was nothing he could do’.

Love Americans and their hypocrisy.

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They are…

They’ve had arrest warrants out for a while, but they do t have their own police force to enforce it

It relies on member states arresting them when they enter their country. It why Bibi hasn’t been going anywhere besides America. Biden is one of the few leaders willing to side with Israel over the UN

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Aren’t there arrest warrants against George W. Bush from like 20 years ago? This is just more talk that won’t be backed up by any meaningful action because of how trivially easy it is to avoid going to these countries.

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The US will veto any action.

It’s them you should be criticizing. It’s always them or Russia/China for the other team.

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You won’t be so smug when people stop buying iPhones.

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Honestly, the real question to me is how many innocent people were maimed, injured, or killed in this attack. This is incredibly indiscriminate, even though the idea is that only the bad guys are holding the pages or walkie-talkies, but if they’re in a cafe they’re not the only ones getting hurt. Think of it as attaching an explosive to a thousand Hezbollah people, and then exploding them as they wander through a city. That’s the true crime, the potentially disproportionate massacre of innocent civilians.

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Agree, I am incredibly disturbed by the nature of this attack and the implications for how other countries might use this idea.

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Several of the victims were children. They went off in crowds. There was no way they could control that many devices with precision when they set them off all at once like that.

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At least it was somewhat targeted, unlike Gaza.

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Says who?

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Ok, I’m sure it’s all as you say. 5 days old account that is totally not suspicious.

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All numbers to you eh?

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In one sense this is much worse, and more terrifying than the run-of-the-mill IED’s used by militant groups. Having to be suspicious of everything around you would be maddening. It’s indiscriminate mass psychological warfare, where the collateral damage goes way beyond the people actually carrying the devices.

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OK, I’m gonna tell a little story that we used to tell in my part of the country. In my part of the country they grow a lot of watermelons.

So there was this watermelon farmer who got upset that everybody kept sneaking into his fields at night and taking watermelons.

So he came up with his great idea that he put a sign at the edge of the field that said one of these watermelons is poison. Now he knew that no one could take a watermelon cause they wouldn’t know which one was poisoned. He was quite proud of this idea.

So we came back in the morning to see how his sign worked. And sure enough no watermelons have been taken overnight.

However, he noticed the number one on his sign had been crossed out and somebody had put two.

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However, he noticed the number one on his sign had been crossed out and somebody had put two.

That is both genius and a total Bond villain origin story.

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Imagine if China, Taiwan or Korea would start doing this shit. Or maybe they already have! Maybe the device you are reading this on would explode in the event of war!

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In another thread I was also performing that thought experiment, specifically related to the possibility of Chinese hobby drones being banned for national security purposes, while at the same time possibly allowing Chinese made EVs to be sold in America. It’s inconsistent if nothing else. A car would be a much more terrifying IED than a pager. Shame on Israel for showing the world that acts like this are not immediately condemned as acts of terrorism and unanimously rejected as being a bridge too far.

Edit: actually it looks like there may be consistency: https://www.newsnationnow.com/world/china/us-to-propose-ban-on-chinese-software-hardware-in-connected-vehicles/

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Don’t you just have to watch out for your Hezbollah-supplied devices?

Also, fat chance they could pull the same thing off again

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Yeah, Hezbollah absolutely fired their IT guy after the second time it happened.

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It’s Hezbollah. They likely killed him thinking he’s a mole.

People here really have forgotten Hezbollah is also a monstrous group. One monster existing (Israeli government) doesn’t negate the other one existing too (Hezbollah).

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It’s indiscriminate because Israel doesn’t know who is in proximity of the device when it explodes, or even if the target is nearby. It’s no stretch to think one of the targets could have been frisking a journalist or aid worker when their device detonated.

That being said, the “indiscriminate mass psychological warfare” comment I made was about how the effect of blowing up common devices as an act of war will have negative psychological effects on everybody who was nearby and probably even those in Lebanon who were not nearby, and potentially even Lebanese people who were in other countries who have family back in Lebanon.

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How is it “indiscriminate” if solely Hezbollah operatives were targeted?

Because said operatives were often within exploding distance of civilians when the pagers were detonated. Shrapnel, even from a small explosion, can be deadly and has a fairly large range. Especially if you don’t have line-of-sight to your target before detonating the device; you have no idea what or who is nearby when it goes off.

“Explosive” and “targeted” generally don’t go hand-in-hand.

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Israel:

seen ✓✓

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puts a minigun on my dryer

come and take it, I dare you

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My ied is gonna make me billions. Improvised explosive dildo

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moans seductively

explodes

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Explosion! Bukkake?

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