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I post a lot of gifs in my work chat because I’m a highly productive individual, but Teams doesn’t have webp support. I thought, “Well that’s silly, I’ll just convert them to gifs, but webp is clearly a stupid format.” Then I converted one, and it had terrible artefacting, choppy framerate, and was over 300% larger. Now I’m mad at Teams.

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… only now

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Have you tried using apng?

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Yeah, GIF is an extremely old format and rarely used these days. You just still see files being called “.gif”, even though they’re APNG or MP4 or something else under the hood.

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I’d so much love for webp support to increase

It’s so much better than sending jpegs to people

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It’s a format published by Google without much industry input. I imagine, that’s why it isn’t seeing terribly much adoption.

AVIF and JPEG-XL might do better, but they’re still relatively young formats.

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Every time I see this, it reminds me that webp is not good, it’s just better. And that an author of webp likely kept JPEG XL out of Chrome. What could have been…

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Linux users: People have problems with web(p|m)? Huh, TIL.

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Apple created HIEC for themselves. They use it within their own gargantuan ecosystem to their own, personal benefit and to the benefit of people all-in on Apple devices. When it’s time to send it outside, they automatically gets converted to JPEG/MOV files.

They do not care if you like it or if you even use it.

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they automatically gets converted to JPEG/MOV files

nope

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They do, most of the time. For example if you upload an heic file from an iPhone to a file input on a website that doesn’t accept heic files, it’ll upload a jpeg.

Apple can’t see or control all the different ways of transferring files, though, so in practice it still causes problems sometimes.

The strange thing is that some Android phones also save photos as heic files and make no attempt to convert them, so I still had to add logic to my websites to convert them myself.

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Heif is covered by patents in the mpegla patent pool of which apple is a member. They have a vested interest in it becoming mainstream.

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