7 points

Corporate sponsored study finds in favor of corporation.

Stay tuned for the news at 7.

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Yeah wtf. The steel frame is going to last an order of magnitude longer than the batteries

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I’ll buy an electric car when

A) it won’t spy on me and

B) I won’t have to sign away my soul and first born to whatever car company I’m buying from

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I hate to break it to you, but nowadays neither of those are exclusive to electric cars. Just sounds like you might never be buying a new car again.

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It’s still easy to disconnect the cellular antenna if you’re fine with losing features like self driving and map updates.

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This. Shit doesn’t magically communicate with the company that made it. If they don’t want their data used, don’t connect it to wifi and disconnect the cellular antenna and pull the sim card 🤷‍♂️

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Buy one from China, The only people spying on you then will have a miniscule impact on you, ever.

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2 points

I thought the zoomed detail was a cheese grater.

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They include climates in the study but only hot climates and temperate climates. Temperate climates perform the best of course, but that’s expected given the narrower temperature ranges.

I would like to see studies for cold climates. Here in Canada we have freezing temperatures for about half the year and sweltering temperatures for a quarter. The shoulder seasons bring lots of rain and temperature fluctuations. This mix of always changing temperatures and humidity (along with all the salt used to de-ice roads) is absolute havoc for ICE cars. It tends to rust them out a decades before the engines give out.

On the other hand, freezing temperatures are brutal on batteries (I know this from how my phone responds to the cold). I do know that a freezing cold battery needs a ton of extra energy to heat up before it can even begin charging. Having an EV in Canada without an indoor parking space for it is not a great experience.

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A battery also needs a ton of energy to become cold. It’s like 300-500kg of mass you need to freeze. Most cars automatically warm up the battery.

I’ve had an EV in Finland for 4 years now and it’s the best winter car I’ve had. -30 C outside and it’s literally T-Shirt weather inside the car within 10 minutes. Zero issues starting after it’s been sitting outside for a few days either.

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Iirc most modern EVs have passive climate control for the battery, even when the car is “off”. So for cold weather that would be trace heaters or equivalent

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I just got back from Quebec and vas surprised to see a ton of electric cars- like California levels of full electric cars on the road. I have to assume that most of them have made it through the winter alright, otherwise we’d be hearing about it. They do test these things in very cold climates before they sell them.

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MG started offering a lifetime warranty for the battery and drivetrains in Thailand.

It confirms what the article is saying, manufacturers know with their experience that the rest of the car will break before the battery or the motor does.

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How long does MG consider to be a lifetime? I’m daily driving a 32 year old car.

Edit: Ok, I looked it up. It’s an unlimited-mile warranty for the first 12 months. After that, it lasts up to 80,000 miles or 7 years, whichever comes first. This is less than the battery warranty for many other brands. This kind of advertising should be illegal, but they placed “lifetime” in quotes, so I guess everyone’s cool with it. Actually, it looks like that might be the old warranty, effective in 2019. I’m having trouble finding the actual terms for the new warranty, but I wanted to correct myself first.

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3 points

MG is still making cars? I haven’t seen anything from them in decades!

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2 points

They’re fairly popular in the UK

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1 point

I loved the B and the Midget that they made in, I think the 70’s. Might have been 60’s. My mom’s friend had both when I was a kid.

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It was bought out by a Chinese company from what I’d heard.

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