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News flash for wealthy authoritarian parasites around the world, because you all seem ignorant of this fact:

Declining birthrates are a direct result of the simple fact that more people all the time decide that they have no desire to bring children into this world, and that in turn is a direct result of the fact that you’ve turned this world into a warped, corrupt, toxic, authoritarian shithole.

You have no one to blame but yourselves.

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I disagree. There’s a lot of reasons why people don’t have children, including:

  • emotional devastated youth (abandoned by parents, addicted to smartphones, misunderstood by society)
  • people can’t find partners for this reason
  • too much stress from too much work
  • wages are barely keeping up with inflation, and I project they will in fact not keep up in the long term in the US due to missing labor protections and decreasing demand for labor.
  • rising cost of living because politically, nobody really cares about the population.

edit: sorry i realized i made these points US-specific but you were talking about russia, sorry.

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They aren’t necessarily US specific. Wages not keeping up with inflation and rising cost of living is a factor from South Korea to Japan to Singapore as well. Some countries muck it up themselves like China with their one child policy back in the day (even the Chinese fertility rate has dipped below 2.2, I think).

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Well, it’s only a very, very recent problem in Japan. They had stagnation for decades. Little to no change in wages, little to no change in prices. In 2011, I was making something like 33,000 USD per year there and living very comfortably with ample savings and what the Japanese considered to be a large apartment. It’s a pretty affordable country, aside from travel. Or if you want to live in a fancy place in a desirable big city neighborhood.

(And yes, I have been to Japan since then and know that things have changed somewhat. It’s still cheap compared to the US. Food is so cheap, it’s amazing what you can get.)

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  • Women get educated
  • Women get their own money
  • Women get control over reproductive rights and tools

So much of our world is based around women keeping it on the rails without receiving credit for their efforts.

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The strongest correlating factor around whether a child born into the world will starve to death or not is whether the mother has a basic education. It outweighs even regional data.

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In a developing country rates also go down with civilization as people learn how not to breed like bacteria. But once it’s about choice, that starts to be a good list. I’d almost list safety as a common theme in them. And in Russia… yeah.

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No - actually I was talking worldwide. Russia’s just a notable example.

And I would say that all of the things you listed are, directly or indirectly, consequences of the fact that wealthy authoritarian parasites have warped societies to their benefit regardless of the harm done to others, so are actually examples of exactly what I’m talking about.

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One point I want to add: Throughout most of human history, it was economically beneficial to have lots of children. They were your retirement plan (and cheap labor).

In most developed countries, this is no longer the case. People who want children get one or two, just to scratch the itch, but that’s not enough to sustain the population (without migration).

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rising cost of living because politically, nobody really cares about the population

Well, interest rates were just raised to 19% in Russia. So good luck financing anything.

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You say you disagree but all those points seem to fall under what they were arguing for.

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My wife and I both work over 40 hour weeks. We are pretty comfortable especially compared to our friends and family members and we are not even close to buying a house and don’t have time to raise a kid and still think it’s too expensive to do so.

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And if the world were a just place instead of a twisted shithole designed to maximize the privilege of a relative few wealthy and empowered parasites, you could work fewer hours, make the same or even more money and afford a house.

But instead the system has been warped so that you have to work long hours for insufficient pay and still can’t afford a decent life, and all so that a relative few executives, board nembers, bankers, investors and politicians can siphon off the bulk of the wealth you generate so that they can buy more houses and bigger yachts.

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I REALLY wish it weren’t against TOS to log into my Fedia.io account, and my piefed account to upvote you 3 times.

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It’s weird just how much he looks like Michael Keaton there.

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8 points

industrialization is linked with lower birth rates. Its probably because people need room to breath to fuck around.

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If only there was something he could do to reduce the death rate in Russia

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Maybe barred windows? So many people seem to die from falling through windows there, apparently all terrible accidents

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Orrrrr…and hear me out…they buy better tanks, and train their military so they don’t take so many casualties.

I mean, longshot here, but I GUESS they could technically stop trying to invade Ukraine, retreat their troops back into proper russia borders, and sign a peace treaty…naaaahhhhh, that would never work! If it were THAT easy, they never would have chose to start a war they would lose so badly at! SURELY they only started this war because there was a good reason, right?..right?..guys?

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What are you talking about? Day 935 of the 3 day war is going great!

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125 points

have they considered not sending everyone to ukraine to die?

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48 points

At this point they don’t even need to go to Ukraine anymore, they have Ukraine at home to deal with

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19 points

That’s right! Ukraine comes to you!

Every day, that final bullet comes closer and closer to putins head.

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4 points

That’s something, at least.

I want to show more empathy, but the dude made the choice to start a new war in the nuclear era when we cannot afford war anymore. (And yes, I’m aware he’s not the first.)

I wonder sometimes if we face a choice between strictly rejecting his kind (war starters) from our species, or accept that our species is destined to cease to exist.

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Nah, he needs babies for the meat grinder.

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Wow that sounds terrible… Especially with encouraging employers to increase birth rates, a lot of sexual assault/harassment is going to be swept under the rug.

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Yeah, that seems to be the point. He’s again appealing to his macho fascist supporters by further enabling abusive behaviour. Domestic violence has been decriminalized for years already in Russia, violence against outgroups is allowed/encouraged, they have a national snitch on your neighbour system, … It’s become a true fascist society.

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19 points

Newsflash. We’re talking about conservative Russia here. It already was :/.

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10 points

It can always get worse.

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I miss the innocence of my younger self when I thought the ending of the Russian World War Z POV was a bit phobic and not prescient.

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Yo, you think Republicans aren’t listening and taking notes? In fact they WOULD encourage sexual assaults. at work and everywhere else - gotta produce babies. It’s how they roll.

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Also they think it’s their only hope of sex, because nobody willingly chooses them.

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If he’s concerned about the population, he can just stop sending young men off to war…

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Seriously! Stop sending off the young men who could be fathers to die in Ukraine. At some point Ukraine will have killed over 1 million of these people that should never have had to leave home.

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Plus the estimated million+ who smartly fled Russia in the first year of the war.

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He is not concerned about the population, he is concerned about not having enough young men to send off to war.

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Not until he’s gotten through all of the peasants who live in the countryside.

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