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Glad to hear. Next up, the geographical map if we’re lucky.

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22 points

With rising sea levels, all in due time. My uni did a map of FL at different sea levels. None of that state is very far up out of the ocean.

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I looked at peak elevation on the keys one time because a buddy of mine was posting pretty crazy splits on some runs. Gtfo with your shit Doug.

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46 points

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22 points

Truly a rabbit ahead of his time.

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Not too much though. Florida makes a great breaker for those hurricanes. Get rid of most of it or make it all swamp, you’ll have more storms into the core areas.

We may get that anyway with stronger storms, Florida or no Florida…

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Georgians living above the Fall Line:

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Nice wiki link. The Talk section is also interesting, mainly concerned with the list of cities that are called Fall Line cities in the two Fall Line entries. I noted it because my location is on one list but two other places more eastern are on the other list, so it seems to be a very ambiguous definition, as geology tends to be.

But Florida isn’t, so suck it! :p

(Although Florida isn’t all low, there will be Floridian islands still, for a while)

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67 points

We need to treat every state as a battleground state

Presidential campaigns cost over a billion dollars these days, if that’s not enough to campaign in 50 states, where the fuck is all that money even going.

A billion dollars is an insane amount, I legitimately don’t understand how either party can claim with a straight face they need or even use close to that much

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Absurdly wealthy media controlling billionaires donate to pacs who then spend the money on… media

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Imagine how many children could be fed with that money. Absolutely immoral.

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Considering the “victory fund” nonsense effectively raised the per person cap to 960k this year. Just imagine how much good the taxes on it would have done if we actually fucking taxed the wealthy.

Then realize those donations is why we’ll never tax the wealthy.

Politicians cut out the middle men and just collect it directly like the Catholics and Mormons do, get that 10% pre tax income…

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The main reason Texas is not “in play” it’s because everyone assumes it can’t be “in play”. Over 5 million registered Texans did not vote in 2020! Among them there is definitely 700k Democratic votes and that would be a landslide win for Harris.

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8 points

There’s a lot of learned helplessness in Texas.

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Part of it is because our congressional districts are drawn like a bowl of spaghetti. In statewide elections it matters less but congressional districs were specifically drawn to pack and crack votes here.

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Indiana is never “in play”…

Except when Obama carried the state to the point they even got a Dem governor…

Then we started running moderates again for president, they got Pence who caused an HIV epidemic and then the whole country had to deal with him as VP.

The problem is what “red states” need to turn blue isn’t what the DNC is willing to give.

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Eh, Mitch Daniels wasn’t a Democrat.

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Campaigning in all 50 states and treating all of them as battleground states are not the same thing. The latter is harder and more expensive.

As to why a billion is not enough, blame the SC for allowing Citizens United in 2010. After that the amount of money just got higher without end in this crazy arms race.

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8 points

30 electoral votes don’t simply disappear

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Florida isn’t worth the time to be a swing state. They don’t listen to facts and get more conservative every chance they can. Spending time campaigning in FL for democrats is simply a waste. May as well campaign at a graveyard.

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May as well campaign at a graveyard.

I mean, that has been part of Trump’s strategy.

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Except if you’re Obama and won Florida twice

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Cool story. That seems to not matter to the Democratic strategists who decided not to invest as much in Florida since they haven’t seen that kind of return in about 12 years now. Im sure you have a better understanding though.

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May as well campaign at a graveyard.

Given the number of boomers who live there, you might be more right than you know.

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No but the chance that you change the vote to your side does go away. Florida isn’t competitive anymore so not much point in either side spending here.

A lot of republicans have moved here and a lot of democrats have left. Add the fact that the Florida democratic party is a mess even compared to other state parties and I don’t see things changing.

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One poll that shows them losing by 1-2% instead of 4-5%. I’ll still vote and I hope I’m wrong but I’m Expecting a all the state wide races to go R.

I think the abortion rights amendment has a good chance of hitting the 60% required.

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What bothers me is Texas isn’t exactly far ahead of Florida in what they teach kids and they also have massive influence on what books schools across the nation end up using.

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Floridians are just as intelligent and prone to moments of stupidity as the rest of the country. They just seem like exceptional idiots because of Florida’s Sunshine Laws, which publicize ridiculous, headline-grabbing incidents. Now, reporters actively search for funny/outrageous Florida stories, and the process feeds itself. The Sunshine Laws are responsible for most of the Florida Man jokes you’ve seen.

No, I’m not a publicly agent for the state of Florida. Actually, I think it would be a terrible place to live. They’re not idiots, though.

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Okay. I’ll take the word of a well-traveled resident!

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So im gonna preface this by saying the furthest ive gone east is Arkansas. But I swear to fuck Florida plates will handsdown be the worst drivers in a pretty sizable radius, like driving down the wrong side of the highway after pulling a uey bad. Mind you they aint the most psychotic drivers, that goes to Idaho. But Idaho is just kinda doing their own thing, while everyone is playing chess Idaho has glued itself to the ceiling and is pissing into its own mouth.

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The smartest regular citizens I’ve met have so far been in NY, MA or MN

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Relativism won’t save Florida. I’ve spent plenty of time there and have even travelled fully north to south and south to north. I’ve also lived in Louisiana and spent time in all parts of Texas and Mississippi. Florida really is on a different level.

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We should have a rule that the 5 states with the lowest test scores in schools don’t get to vote for president.

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