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She lost her position in the GOP to stand up against a criminal. Stood up for democracy rather than power. I don’t like her politics but admire her courage

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I welcome her efforts, and agree with her that Trump is a cancer upon the party.

But Trump is not some invader to the party come to conquer. He is the natural product of a brand of political narcissism that she’s supported and espoused her entire public life. She’s like a tobacco executive with metastatic lung cancer, who has suddenly realized that cancer is bad but doesn’t think people need to stop smoking. They just need to cut out the cancer, and then they can go back to enjoying the smooth taste of Conservativism.

She’s brave to go against the party. She’s smart to recognize the opportunity she has to reclaim control of the GOP by helping Kamala and the Dems. If Trump loses, and the Dems take the House and Senate, she can point to the loss and say “See, I told you so.” But anyone that falls for that line has a very short memory.

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We must take wins where we find them.

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She complained loudly when Trump showed up because she was pretty close to next in line to be her dad’s puppet.

Her “position in the GOP” was gone and she then complained about.

She didn’t fucking stand up for what is right and throw a career away because of her ethics.

For fucks sake 2016 really wasn’t that long ago, why can so many people not remember?

Why are people constantly trying to make it seem like 2014 Republicans were good people?

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When you compare them to 2024 Republicans, they are.

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And let’s get real. Contrary to what some … people in this forum say, no, we are not saying she’s a good person or a nice person. We’re saying we agree with her that Trump is a cancer on the country. And many of us are calling everyone that led up to this out, so it’s not like she’s getting a pass or anything. Quite literally, what the person you replied to is replying to is saying “I don’t like her politics” and the other person calls out the fact that her dad’s politics is what made Trump possible. The argument that we support the Cheney’s is a strawman made of lies. We don’t. We just agree with THIS conclusion that if you want to stop Trump, you need to more than stay home or vote third party. But then again, these posters are all the usual ones trying to depress the Democratic turnout because ‘they ain’t liberal enough’ and so they want to make sure that Liz’s and Dick’s message doesn’t get out!

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This headline is a fucking mess, man

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Eh, it’s just removing unnecessary words as most headlines do. “Cheney says Republicans (that are) against Trump but (are) not backing Harris (are) ‘not (doing) enough’”

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IMO at least one of those omitted words was not unnecessary

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Yeah it took me an unnecessarily long time to parse this headline tbh. Partly got tripped up by the idea that ‘republicans against trump’ was some kind of group or organisation.

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Feels dirty to agree with a Cheney

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