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I married a Jewish woman, but she’s not religious in any way. After we had a son, the amount of people who thought it was ok to ask us about the status of our child’s penis was alarming. I didn’t mince words with them either. If you’re gonna ask me, I’m gonna tell you why I think it’s fucked and I won’t allow anyone to mutilate my child, I don’t care how much it offends your religion.

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49 points

How’s your kid’s penis doing otherwise?

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31 points

Found the GOP candidate

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Idk I don’t find it very alarming that they asked about it. I guess it would be messed up if there wasn’t this cultural and religious thing but it is a thing. If people started pushing for it then that’s fucked up.

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I think what OP means is that when you’ve been immersed in rationality for a while then suddenly in a situation where you’re surrounded by religious people again, the things that are “normal” to them can be jarring to you. It’s quite an “emperor has no clothes” moment.

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Sometimes I attend 12-step meetings again for social reasons or friendly support or job hunting and even the boilerplate texts will still make me be like “What in the tarnation?” Like literal tarnation.

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I do get that, but it’s still a very present and well known thing so it seems surprising that they’d be so surprised by it

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8 points

“This fucked up thing is fine, because we’re used to it”

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I feared Trump a lot less after Bush broke me. I fear another Trump less even. Younger, more idealistic me would vomit with disappointment in my shrugging and sighing instead of seething and yelling.

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That’s how things culturally work, yeah

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But for some reason really doesn’t want adults to be able to make the decision to lose even more of their pp.

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Your only allowed to modify genitals for sadistic reasons./j

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Maybe creating a movement that advocates removing girl’s lower labia at birth mandatory would make society wake up. You know, remove them for sanitary reasons etc…

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Nah, they’re just (rightly) pointing out that it’s barbaric while continuing to think mutilating boys is just fine.

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Honestly, I don’t think that would work. Flint didn’t wake our society. That we can have more mass shootings than days in a year for several consecutive years hasn’t woken it. Honestly, at what point must we conclude that we’re trying to wake a corpse?

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I had to literally take out a mortgage to get bottom surgery because of the insane hoops I had to go through “medically”.

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I’m intact. In my country it’s only done for medical reasons.

My friend had circumcision performed in his 20’s because he was having trouble during sex. He later confided to close friends that it was shit; Initially he was constantly uncomfortable because of the friction of his glans with underwear, until it desensitized!! and he had to lubricate to masturbate, among other things. He also said that sex was plain and simple worse, that he had lost a lot of sensitivity, and that it took him way longer.

Those who are circumcised who tell themselves they fine are deluding themselves.

That the US allows ritual infant genital mutilation is plain and simple barbaric.

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Also consider that if it’s all you ever knew, you might just be trying to make the most of it, without defending the practice.

Sex feels great to me, I wish I was uncut, and I would never circumcise my son if I had one.

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Those who are circumcised who tell themselves they fine are deluding themselves.

utterly pointless insulting victims like this. stop.

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Fuck no, cause those same shitheads are totally fine with the continuation of the practice. They try to minimize the trauma to feed their own insecurities.

People who downplay circumcision can get fucked.

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If everyone got a lucky number tattoo before they could even talk, something nonconsensual and superstitious, some people would end up liking their tattoo or not caring either way. Such a person can still find the practice wrong, horrific even. If you have personal trauma it does not justify assuming people’s positions and calling them shitheads.

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Circumcision without consent and without a real medical necessarily is barbaric and needs to end.

My point is that I can’t take it back, so I choose to enjoy what I have instead of lamenting what I should have. Maybe if foregen succeeds I’ll consider that tho

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As damn but how is he supposed to feel superior?

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As a victim, I wish people had insulted previous victims so that they wouldn’t pass on their trauma to the next generation.

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I’m not insulting anybody, I’m simply pointing out that to pretend everything is fine, is looking the other way.

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How else am I supposed to enjoy what remains of my penis?

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I was circumcised in my late teen’s and had none of those issues or noticed any difference in sex other than it didn’t hurt like hell when I would cum anymore. I was left with a scar on the head and shaft from where they had to cut the string thing that connected the two. It might be because the head of my dick was already fully exposed when flaccid and uncomfortably so when erect. I still remember the first stringy bit tearing the first time I had sex, hurt like a mf. After a few more times I got the courage to ask my mom, who I had a poor relationship with, to take me to the doctor which resulted in them performing the operation to remove the much thicker, comparably, stringy bit that connected the head to the shaft.

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From that description, it sounds like you were circumcised at birth, and then had your frenulum removed later.

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My mother said I was not circumcised as a baby but it’s nothing I talked to her about again and I suppose she could have been lying.

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I regret what I did to my newborn son. It’s 22 years too late to change it, but as an atheist with an atheist son, I should have done better.

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If it helps, I’m circumsized and I’m glad my parents made that decision. Not sure how your son feels, but it’s really not a big deal assuming it was done well.

The reason I’m glad is because the woman I’ve dated happened to all all prefer cut to uncut.

Queue the “REEEE” from the anti-circumcision folks…

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Jesus Christ get a grip.

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Were you at atheist at the time if circumcision? If so; why did you go along w it when they asked you if you wanted to circumcise your son? Did the fact that insurance didn’t cover since they deem it medically unnecessary ring any alarm bells at all?

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Not the commenter, but in the US insurance covers it if it’s done initially; I think that’s been the case even when I was born. What’s weird is it’s practically the default, and you almost just say yes without a second thought (I only questioned it thanks to posts like this, lol).

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Beyond wild . Casual infant genital mutilation

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They REALLY tried to push it on my son. Must have asked 4 times!!! I’m lucky my mom is a total hippie and educated, so I was spared even decades ago when it was less talked about.

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From the people I know who I’ve heard explain their reasons, the hospital staff just presented it as a thing that’s normally done and they were pretty much like “yea whatever” because it was done to them. I haven’t talked to a ton of people about this because it’s a weird thing to have come up in a conversation in person but that’s what they’ve all said.

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Went from a fair question to assumptions and bad vibes. Classic ml JAQ

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