While working to decrease smoking is pretty objectively a good thing, maybe properly funding the NHS, which has been getting cut to the bone by Tories hoping to sell it to their pals would be a better approach to this particular problem statement.
We did this in Sweden a few years ago and Iβm very thankful.
Smoking is banned in all restaurants, train stations, school, and any other place where lots of people congregate
If i want to drink a beer and smoke a ciggy outside at the pub in the SMOKERS section that should be my right. Why should the government have any say over this.
Because people should have the right to tell other adults what to do with their own body.
Because itβs still disgusting. Smoking is disgusting to anyone but smokers. Your cigarettes are fucking everywhere. Just do yourself and everyone around you a favour and realise that itβs maybe time to stop being gross. Itβs like taking a shit on the street. Why am i not allowed to take a shit on the street? I just want to get drunk and shit outside? Whatβs with my freedom?
Governments have a say in your rights every single time.
When they put fences around a cliff they are infringing upon your right to throw yourself off a cliff.
Thatβs part of the powers of governments, deciding if you have the right to do something.
So why the fuck are you advocating for the government to take away more of your rights? Why canβt I throw myself off a fucking cliff if I want to? Itβs my fucking God-given right. Stop being such a simp for the boot.
God-given? Thatβs your go to?
Fuck the authorities because god says I can do what I like?
Also where is it you think the smokers section comes from?
Iβm not saying what they are doing isnβt bullshit, it very much is, but βwho are they to tell me to do this new thing, I can continue to do this other thing they told me I can do, because I donβt have to listen to themβ is some Olympian level mental gymnastics
Because I fucking hate walking around the city and having to hold my breath because thereβs a smoker in a 10m radius.
The same reason that I advocate for the government to not allow people to buy guns.
Why should the government have any say over this.
Because theyβll be the ones paying if you get cancer?
This is why the American system is superior. You have the freedom to get cancer if you want, you just have to pay for it yourself instead of relying on handouts from govmunt. Donβt tread on me.
Ok tax it then to compensate for the difference dont start limiting freedoms.
Tax it.
Lol. Tell me youβre not an adult without telling me youβre not an adult.
Not just him, itβs also negatively affecting other people around him. The smoke doesnβt just stop at an invisible barrier where the smoking area ends and the non-smoking area begins.
FYI we did this in New Zealand years ago (like more than a decade ago).
It is amazing. There are well ventilated smoking areas (well outside). Inside the air is clear and you get home without reeking of smoke.
Itβs the same in the UK - indoor public spaces have been smoke free since 2007. This is proposing removing public outdoor smoking spaces at bars and restaurants.
Oh, thatβs a bit shit.
Even I, a non smoker, think thatβs a bit rough.
As a former smoker, I think this is a good idea.
Smoking costs the public enormous costs in terms of healthcare.
Like hundreds of thousands of extra per liftime. That the NHS has to pay.
Hereβs a study from 1990, add inflation and such https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199710093371506
