54 points

That’s one way to get people to turn to piracy.

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Most denuvo games don’t get cracked.

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That was true for a little while around 2016 I think. If it’s temporarily true again now I don’t expect it’ll last very far into the lifetime of a civ game.

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Empress was the only denuvo cracker, and she’s gone.

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3 points

Maybe, maybe not. HiFi Rush hasn’t been cracked, even after Microsoft became theevillain of the week for the whole internet, because they closed down Tango Gameworks.

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1 point

Is that really true? I guess I’m not up to date enough, but I think most modern games make their way to the modern seas.

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It’s true. There was only one person willing and capable of cracking denuvo, and they’ve been a total ghost for a year now. Possibly a literal ghost now, considering they’re Russian.

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26 points

I guess I’ll keep playing Civ 5, then?

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Yep they can just let me know when they figure things out.

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22 points

Unciv is an open source version of Civ V that works on Android and PC, if you really want to lose some hours

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Mobile games on PC… No thanks.

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8 points

I have it on Android, it feels more like a PC game ported to Android. I quite enjoyed it.

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4 points

Unciv

A real Civ game that runs on my phone? Well, damnit, my poops are about to become 3 hour marathons.

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2 points

I realized it had community mods available that fill in all the missing tech and countries from the expansions/DLC, installed them, blinked and suddenly the sun was rising?

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2 points

Maybe have a look at ARA that’s gonna release some time soon. It’s made by the civ5 devs and I’ve played the alpha playtest - so far it looks great

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The one title of that type of genre I’m looking forward to. I hope they don’t fuck it up.

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I will potentially not buy it then.

How many times do we have to teach these companies this lesson? Anti-piracy DRM never stops pirates, it only causes harm to legitimate paying customers. Pirates get the objective better experience playing a game with DRM removed because they not only get the game for free, but it performs better than the version people pay for. Why pay money for something that is objectively worse than getting it for free?

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Nobody’s teaching these companies any lessons. They keep using Denuvo because it works, and the games keep selling because the number of people actually bothered by it is pretty small.

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Source needed for it actually working to reduce piracy. It’s possible, but I’m gonna need sources since we know from history that simply providing a better product does more to increase sales and reduce piracy than anything else. People are willing to pay when they get their money’s worth. The ones that don’t, weren’t going to pay anyway, so there’s no actual lost sale.

It just makes the bean counters feel better and help justify their position.

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Look at when games get cracked, it’s very rarely prior to release

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It’s not really clear if working DRM increases sales. But most Denuvo games don’t get cracked, so it definetly prevents most piracy.

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The fact that there currently is no one cracking Denuvo? Empress was the only one cracking and posting new denuvo releases and they’ve been completely silent for months(possibly over a year? I forget). The only other people cracking denuvo lately are a DRM developerdoing so for the challenge(and not releasing the crack, because they’re a DRM dev…) and like one other guy cracking much older versions of denuvo.

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Yep. Most people have no spine, or even care about it. Whatever, I can waste my time and money on other games. It’s not like there’s a lack of them out there, even outside of Denuvo, EA & Ubisoft.

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I think most people aren’t even aware of the different forms of DRM and whether or not their games use them. For the majority of players, there’s no discernible impact to their experience so they have no reason to question any of it.

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To be fair denuvo is really effective.

It usually takes a long ass time for denuvo games to get cracked if at all.

Last I checked there were only two people cracking denuvo, one who only likes football games and one really crazy lady.

Also the lack of piracy is most important for publishers around launch and that’s reflected in denuvo’s pricing which IIRC increases substantially after a year or two (this is a fairly recent change)

So more games have started to remove Denuvo after a while after launch.

Before they changed it, I believe the publishers got to keep Denuvo at no extra cost if they didn’t change the game or something but now it gets more expensive the further from launch you go

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It’s wild, I’m one of those patient gamer types but there are certain games that I’d make an exception for and buy as soon as they came out, and Civ has been one of those games as far back as I can remember. But this is gonna be the first one I’m not going to bother with. Between this and the absolutely bonkers price, I really can’t justify it. Maybe in a few years when the Denuvo is removed and you can get the full thing for like $40 or so, but no way am I paying $167 CAD for the full edition on day one.

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18 points

Boo

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Thou Shall Not Preorder

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Good. Preordering games is the dumbest fucking concept. People need to stop doing this.

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30 points

But what if they run out of digital copies?

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6 points

But what if they offer a limited edition Gandhi skin

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