I’ve been trying to use Matrix to replace sites like Discord or Slack. But it seems that if a user creates an invitation-only room in a server, then invited users who are registered on other servers get errors when trying to join. Not very useful error messages either: “Failed to join room”. (In my case, I tried creating accounts and rooms at nitro.chat and then at converser.eu, but friends registered at matrix.org don’t manage to join).

Quite a let-down. Anyone who’s facing the same problem and has maybe managed to solve it?

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Revolt with federation (they are hinting XMPP) would be very nice

https://developers.revolt.chat/faq.html

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One can only hope, but it is still very promising without.

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Do you use it?

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That’s why I said “would”

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Works on my machine

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Matrix 2.0 is pretty close.

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Yeah it does. The main app didn’t yet last I checked but there were other apps that did.

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In my experience it looks like a case of matrix clients not doing a good job of communicating that things happening in the background haven’t finished yet, and throwing generic error messages (a bit like lemmy-ui does sometimes).

I’ve been able to join invite-only rooms on other instances - it said ‘failed’ at first, but when I went back later it turned out that I had actually joined.

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What are some of the popular Matrix clients that you’ve seen have this problem? And are they open source?

I’ve been curious about Matrix for a while as a potential Discord replacement, but haven’t actually tried it. Might be interesting to check it out and see whether I can contribute to one of the clients somehow.

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I’ve only ever used Element for Android. The source is here: https://github.com/element-hq

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the thing that drives me absolutely into matrix-hate-rage is the scrolling. if youre in a matrix space with lots of little different windows attempting to scroll through almost any context is a crapshoot at best.

i like the idea of matrix, but its implementation is hot garbage.

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One of my favorite matrix games is playing “guess where it thinks the unread marker should be.”

I’m just as likely to be right as it is.

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Me too! When I’m scrolling in a room reading a backlog it will jump all over the place. I don’t know why but that is super annoying. It’s as if it’s some html / css anchoring going horribly wrong or something. First I thought it was caused by the client, but it happens in Element as well as Fluffy chat. I try to avoid Matrix as much as possible because of that.

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Matrix definitely has its problems. Recently I’ve moved to a private matrix install and a lot of the issues I was having went away. I think the matrix.org domain is overloaded and has a bunch of weird errors because of it. If your account or rooms are hosted there and you have issues I’d try running somewhere else and see if you have the same problems.

Like someone else said the clients have issues too. A lot of them don’t know how to report the errors they run into so they spit out garbage. There isn’t a single client that works perfectly but there are a few that are good enough to use if you aren’t using them for mission critical communication. It’s stupid but it is what it is.

Discord sucks ass and no one will convince me otherwise. I have no desire to support them and their constant nitro spam. I’d rather use something like matrix and see how it develops.

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It works great for a closed group of people, all on one instance. Another data point that federation is hard.

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