I’ve been trying to use Matrix to replace sites like Discord or Slack. But it seems that if a user creates an invitation-only room in a server, then invited users who are registered on other servers get errors when trying to join. Not very useful error messages either: “Failed to join room”. (In my case, I tried creating accounts and rooms at nitro.chat and then at converser.eu, but friends registered at matrix.org don’t manage to join).

Quite a let-down. Anyone who’s facing the same problem and has maybe managed to solve it?

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Which client do you use? Desktop is the best working, second android element slow and laggy but fullest implementation so far, worst are element x which they created only to test still draft phase feature speeding up syncing but otherwise half backed. There is no other third party clients which would be significantly complaint with the protocol

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I’ve tried different clients: Element web, desktop, and android, and FluffyChat desktop and android. The problems seems to come, as other have written, when the matrix.org server is involved: it’s people from their handle there which experience glitches joining rooms in other servers. It seems this “part” of the fediverse still needs a lot of development.

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Yes, while desktop is mostly working well, other clients are far from being usable. I totally agree with this and choices of matrix foundation are not making it any better imo. Their inventing “new features” and not polishing current ecosystem, is not a best strategic choice

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Agree 110%! It’s sad because it pushes back those people who were curious about alternatives and were willing to try. Hopefully things will improve with time…

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Prose is an extremely good looking crosd platform XMPP client coming out very soon, I’m hoping that will help.

Currently XMPP is my preferred federated messaging platform, but to say the clients are bad would be an understatement

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B-b-but the Fediverse told me that XMPP was embrace-extend-extinguished by Google!!?!

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it kinda was but it seems to be getting more popular again

the protocol has also changed a huge amount since google used it, but its still quite a small community as far as messaging apps go

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Looks very promising! thank you for sharing. Seems worth trying and supporting.

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Does it support threads? That’s the feature that is usually missing in XMPP clients

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Yes it does support but best on desktop. On android only pretty much “legacy” and not anymore worked on element which has performance issues

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They are working on that, yes.

But I would rather have no threads than those like Element has… what a mess 🫠

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I’m not sure, it might be on their website. I hope so.

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Matrix is a protocol, unlike discord. The problems often come with the different clients. I personally suggest fluffychat wherever I go since that is the most usable in my experience. Element I have installed as a backup on all my devices if I need to troubleshoot.

Same as with apple‘s „iforgot“ service: the privilege of privacy comes with responsibility. You must either take care of a couple things yourself or pay someone to do it. On discord, a huge margin of people pays with real money and the rest with their data.

To the topic: Matrix rooms have a version and the server you make them on matters a lot. Therefore I would stay on org if none of you know your way around. If you have skills, make your own and configure it in the most non individual way possible for maximum compatibility. If people cant join even when you invited them, you might have to check if the servers each federate correctly. If not, switch servers or tell your admin.

Edit: you‘ll probably get advice at !matrix@lemmy.ml

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I didn’t know about !matrix, cheers!!

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XMPP is the way.

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Seconded. Once I installed Cheogram I haven’t wanted to open any of my matrix chats

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I want to use matrix so bad but matrix clients suck and there’s no voice channels like discord

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