I’ve been trying to use Matrix to replace sites like Discord or Slack. But it seems that if a user creates an invitation-only room in a server, then invited users who are registered on other servers get errors when trying to join. Not very useful error messages either: “Failed to join room”. (In my case, I tried creating accounts and rooms at nitro.chat and then at converser.eu, but friends registered at matrix.org don’t manage to join).

Quite a let-down. Anyone who’s facing the same problem and has maybe managed to solve it?

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Anyone who says Matrix is a suitable replacement for Discord is delusional.

But you can self-host Revolt chat, which is very similar.

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Revolt with federation (they are hinting XMPP) would be very nice

https://developers.revolt.chat/faq.html

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As of right now, Revolt does not feature any federation and it is not in our feature roadmap.

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That’s why I said “would”

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One can only hope, but it is still very promising without.

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Do you use it?

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Matrix 2.0 is pretty close.

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2.0 doesn’t even support spaces…

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Yeah it does. The main app didn’t yet last I checked but there were other apps that did.

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Works on my machine

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In my experience it looks like a case of matrix clients not doing a good job of communicating that things happening in the background haven’t finished yet, and throwing generic error messages (a bit like lemmy-ui does sometimes).

I’ve been able to join invite-only rooms on other instances - it said ‘failed’ at first, but when I went back later it turned out that I had actually joined.

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What are some of the popular Matrix clients that you’ve seen have this problem? And are they open source?

I’ve been curious about Matrix for a while as a potential Discord replacement, but haven’t actually tried it. Might be interesting to check it out and see whether I can contribute to one of the clients somehow.

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I’ve only ever used Element for Android. The source is here: https://github.com/element-hq

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Matrix definitely has its problems. Recently I’ve moved to a private matrix install and a lot of the issues I was having went away. I think the matrix.org domain is overloaded and has a bunch of weird errors because of it. If your account or rooms are hosted there and you have issues I’d try running somewhere else and see if you have the same problems.

Like someone else said the clients have issues too. A lot of them don’t know how to report the errors they run into so they spit out garbage. There isn’t a single client that works perfectly but there are a few that are good enough to use if you aren’t using them for mission critical communication. It’s stupid but it is what it is.

Discord sucks ass and no one will convince me otherwise. I have no desire to support them and their constant nitro spam. I’d rather use something like matrix and see how it develops.

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Lots of people say this. I host my own Conduit server. Still have to wait 5 seconds every time I open the app for messages to sync. Very annoying when I’m just trying to shoot a message and get back to whatever it is I’m doing.

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I want to use matrix so bad but matrix clients suck and there’s no voice channels like discord

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Prose is an extremely good looking crosd platform XMPP client coming out very soon, I’m hoping that will help.

Currently XMPP is my preferred federated messaging platform, but to say the clients are bad would be an understatement

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Looks very promising! thank you for sharing. Seems worth trying and supporting.

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Does it support threads? That’s the feature that is usually missing in XMPP clients

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They are working on that, yes.

But I would rather have no threads than those like Element has… what a mess 🫠

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I’m not sure, it might be on their website. I hope so.

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Yes it does support but best on desktop. On android only pretty much “legacy” and not anymore worked on element which has performance issues

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B-b-but the Fediverse told me that XMPP was embrace-extend-extinguished by Google!!?!

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it kinda was but it seems to be getting more popular again

the protocol has also changed a huge amount since google used it, but its still quite a small community as far as messaging apps go

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