• Peloton is introducing a $95 “used equipment activation fee” for bikes purchased from outside its official channels in the US and Canada, aiming to boost revenue and maintain onboarding quality for new subscribers.
  • The fee has sparked criticism as it reduces the cost savings typically associated with buying secondhand equipment and diverges from practices in other industries, potentially discouraging used market purchases.
  • Peloton’s hardware sales continue to decline, but subscription revenue has seen slight growth; the company still faces financial struggles despite cost-cutting measures and layoffs.
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This is about an exercise bike, right? Why the heck is there so much nonsense surrounding it?

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The answer is actually corporate greed and synthesized hype for what’s probably a pretty quality piece of equipment if you remove all the enshitification from it.

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The correct answer is people are fat cats. That commenter was so close.

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I mean you’re not wrong in a sense. Their marketing campaign centered around targeting a specific demographic (high income insecure millennials)…those that would spend a lot of money to get their own exercise equipment than go to the gym with other people around.

Now there’s nothing wrong with that (with wanting your own exercise equipment, at least). I just wish people realized other gym goers don’t give a shit about you. I literally don’t remember anything about anyone after the gym (like “wow that dude was so fat”).

But alas, here we have our lovely corporate propagan-….I mean “Public Relations”…manufacturing insecurity in the mind of the consumer.

As much as I dislike Planet Fitness’s predatory business model, I do gotta say they used this “gym insecurity” manufacturing from other PR firms to their advantage. “We know you’re insecure about going to the gym. Here’s a gym for the regular joe. Super cheap and the gym won’t have those judgmental gym goes (who never existed in the first place) that other gyms have. It’s only $10 a month! Yeah, we make it so you literally need to give us your left kidney in order to cancel your subscription, and yeah 90% of our revenue comes from people who never actually use the gyms, but hey, if you’re one of the 10%, then that’s even better since the 90% basically pay for your membership, new equipment, clean gym, amenities, AND the gyms won’t be crowded!”

So yeah…predatory as fuck…but at least their PR campaign centered around taking advantage of a manufactured insecurity rather than adding to it? Or maybe by perpetuating this myth that there really do exist a bunch of toxic gym goers at other gyms isn’t really helping…I’m not so sure now haha.

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I like the ones that advertise “$10/month” and just don’t mention that there’s an additional sizable annual fee that you also have to pay.

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Because it’s an exercise bike ✨on the internet✨

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Why make crazy amounts of money on a stationary bike only once? When you can every time they want to use the bike? Capitalism innovation for the win baby!!!

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The F in IoT stands for Freedom

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They hired some PR firm that did a really good job of marketing the enshitification to a specific demographic (high income millennials)

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Peloton is designed for rich people. They don’t say it explicitly because thar ruins the illusion, but the bike is meant to be a status distinction. You may only own it if you’re eager to be seen as someone who spends too much money on an exercise bike.

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Ah thanks. Though for enough $$ they could get even more status with a vintage Cinelli track bike and some Weyless rollers. I mean I’d be impressed if I saw that. Unlike with the Peliton.

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That doesn’t have brand status.

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Jokes on them, I think lowly of people with exercise bikes. I’m on a level of pretentious they can’t reach.

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218 points

Why are we comfortable with not owning the things we buy :/

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99 points

Im not, I wouldnt buy one.

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I would consider dragging my used equipment over sr mgmt’s face

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Kinky

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It’s not enough to not buy one. We need to demand that Congress and the FTC do their goddamn jobs and quit letting every company fuck over the public.

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Yeah that isnt their job, thats just how they are marketed. The US is a corporation and everyone in it is doomed to the rat race.

So so many issues that just happen in other countries.

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They already charge a ridiculous monthly fee just to use the bike.

And sure, it’s a nicer exercise bike, but you can get a similar experience with a much cheaper bike and a tablet.

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Yep. I’ve been doing this for a while now with a cheap old no-name bike and an ipad. Poor man’s peloton ftw.

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How do you do this with a tablet? Can you buy like a wheel sensor or something?

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For everyone with a peloton, you can flash the bike with an aftermarket software.

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61 points

HACK THE PLANET!!

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Zwift or TrainerRoad

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flash the bike with an aftermarket software.

Not a phrase I’d ever thought I’d hear.

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Given how ebikes are becoming more popular every year, and all manufacturers are locking them down with canbus, you’re gonna hear that phrase a lot in the future

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I mean, there’s a reason almost nobody is buying their products.

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Do you see an alternative? Each year more companies move to a subscription model, even when it doesn’t make the slightest bit of sense. In many cases if you have the time to do proper research and/or a lot of technical savvy, you can find alternatives from companies no one recognizes. Most people don’t have the time or know-how, and the companies that like subscription models are spending billions making sure their names are the only ones people think exist.

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Update consumer protection laws and actually enforce them. Laws that were written back when tech would come with the schematics.

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12 points

I’m not which is why I don’t use photoshop or lightroom.

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6 points

Pssst. You could always pirate them.

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Those ones are actually kinda hard to pirate. Especially if you had the creative cloud on your pc at some point.

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It’s unappealing to have software be hostile. Software that does what I want only if it’s creator doesn’t actively oppose it… that need not be on my computer.

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4 points

The old EA project $10 never truly died

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Is this like an… idiot tax?

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The “signing up for Planet Fitness membership but not actually using the gym” is the real idiot tax. Well, yeah, I guess this one is too.

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I cannot understand why lemmy gets up in arms over bullshit like this. If the idiots wish to pay, let them.

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The people getting up in arms are upset because they see it as a slippery slope. First just the idiots pay for subscriptions, then it creeps into the lives of everyone. And eventually it’s harder to avoid the bullshit than just pay, and the whole market becomes more predatory. Like if the idiots give companies an inch, they’ll eventually take a mile

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But this fee wasn’t there when people originally purchased this was it? If so, they will now have a less valuable product since they won’t be able to sell it as easily. Or are they only doing it for new units?

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To my understanding, it has always only been usable with a subscription, so…

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For a subscription fee of [+$5/six months] your brand new pair of Peloton Underwear™️ won’t shit themselves.

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Anti-shit underwear? Sign me up!

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The downside: You have to shit them yourself.

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