Aren’t you supposed to plan appearances like this ahead of time to prevent this exact thing from happening?
Plan? The only plan they got is project 2025. I don’t think it spells out how to order donuts without acting weird.
Imagine ordering ANYTHING as vaguely as “some of this, some of that, whatever makes sense”.
“Sir, that’s not even a real order. I don’t have time for your bullshit.”
Reminds me of customers at the bank I used to work for who would want the teller to pick which account the money went into. Like bro, make an effort.
Imagine being born in a position of privledge, and never being told “no” in your entire life. Why would you ever make a plan when you make the subconscious assumption that everyone operates around what you want?
On a related note, this is why “Woke” is so offensive to people like JD Vance. “We were doing just fine before you people started complaining!” is an easy thought to have from the lap of luxuryn
Why would you ever make a plan when you make the subconscious assumption that everyone operates around what you want?
Because their whole life has been geared toward allowing them to believe they are entitled to everything.
As always, calling others “entitled” was pure projection.
They’re all magas here were I work so it didn’t work out as well, but our congressional rep planned a stop over here so I planned a day off. I wish more people would have done that, but I live in asshole land. :/
When I worked at a store that sold guns in 2016, supposedly there was a chance that a certain oddly-colored cheeto would be making a PR appearance after a speech in town.
I straight up told my manager if they actually think it’s a real possibility then I will not be returning to work after my lunch break. I don’t think for a second my threat actually made a difference, but I’d like to think my manager and district manager would take their ONLY trained tech for their most profitable services in 8 states and risk them leaving over a PR stunt they know will piss off half the people who shop there.
However when one of the red hats found out that the district manager called corporate to say it wasn’t a good idea, they quit. Granted, nobody cared since it was their first week, but I know they were talking about being desperate for work they were qualified for that won’t do a background check. So they quit over stupid shit when they apparently needed the money.
Logic is not strong with that crowd.
Planning is only as good as the planner. Sometimes you still end up giving a press conference at the wrong Four Seasons.
they’re so full of themselves they cannot conceive of someone who doesn’t want to comply with them and get a moment of fame on TV. that person denying to be on camera probably destroyed his mood for the whole day as he wondered what he did- “there’s no way she hates me so much she doesn’t want to be seen on TV next to me… I’m famous!”
This clip proved to me that couchfucker Vance is definitely not “from the middle class”
Hes obviously never ordered donuts himself. No clue what they are, expects to walk in and get handed a box of glazed donuts and a box of mixed donuts, while people are amazed and happy to have “someone like him” in the store.
I mean… if all you ever did was buy donuts at a supermarket, you kind of would expect that.
I don’t buy a lot of donuts (personally not a big fan and they make for weird interactions at work) but when I do? My order is usually “Uh. Three or four boston creme, three or four jelly, and then whatever you have a lot of for the rest”. And I have definitely done the Dunkin run where it is “a box o joe and then two dozen of whatever donuts. Also <insert breakfast standwich here>.”
So I won’t fault couch fucker for having a hard time picking out donuts or basically just saying “I don’t care, just give me two dozen donuts. Feel free to pick the stale ones”. But it is more just the overall shitshow of it for not having someone run up ahead to make sure the store and staff were cool with it.
Story time! Back in… damn I guess it would have been 08? Obama and Biden were doing the “man of the people” bullshit. Incredibly blue region with strong ties to Biden so it was basically a freebie to record a few press bits. Was getting lunch and chatting with a buddy about all the cars on the street and the like when some 20-something year old girl in a suit comes in. She leans in and asks the person at the counter something and then comes around to the various tables to make small talk and ask leading but kind of inflammatory questions. She asked us what our views on abortion were (and, while I won’t repeat what my buddy said because it was definitely sexist, it was quite possibly the greatest failed pick-up line of all time). She then gets up and states something like “In five minutes, Obama and Biden will be walking through that door. We apologize for the inconvenience. As we get closer, anyone who does not want to be on camera will be directed to move over towards that wall. It will only be for ten minutes and we will pay for everyone’s meal, regardless of if you are on camera or not. Thank you”.
And, let me tell you? Buying lunch for a bunch of students goes a long way toward making for a warm reception. And while it was obvious they had been prepped on the menu, it was also obvious that this was the kind of food both future presidents ate semi-regularly. And it was obvious they had been prepped on which tables were likely avid democrats, which were republicans, and which were dumbass kids who were hitting on the point person for the casual “So, what can we do to earn your vote?” style bits.
But… that is kind of the thing. It is not a complicated bit of theatre. I am sure the approach has changed a bit (now that everyone has camera phones and tiktok) but it still holds true. Have someone run ahead to make sure you aren’t entering a hostile situation that will just make everyone look bad.
Everything blurs together and I am too lazy to google, but now I am wondering if that press event was specifically because everyone (of the republicans) were losing their god damned mind over the existence of a black man. Err, I mean Obama liking dijon mustard or something. So have him and his old white guy buddy eat some normal people food (because dijon mustard is insanely fancy, obviously).
Like I said, I am not a big fan of donuts. A lot of people aren’t. But there is the expectation that everyone should bow down to the person who brought them to the breakroom and join the mad rush when the email goes out and so forth. Not to mention that some people DO like donuts (more power to them) and might be polite enough to ask if anyone minds if they take a second one which has led to a few slack chats of everyone feeling the need to list that they had 1 and so forth. Which invariably reveals who didn’t have any and leads to “oh, are you on a diet”? level conversations that can make others feel self conscious about their weight.
Personally? I am a big fan of bringing a box to an early morning meeting or whatever. Absolutely hate bringing them to a breakroom or, for the truly deranged, walking them around an office.
Things have gotten a lot better in the past decade or so of “I don’t eat gluten” becoming ridiculously common. But I find it still puts people into unnecessarily awkward situations where one person might think it is a nothingburger of an interaction and someone else might take it as “Are you saying I am fat and need to go on a diet?”
The anecdote of the recon girl in the suit is one of the most interesting that I’ve read in some time. Totally makes sense that they would do that.
How do folks feel about whether that low level of deceit is appropriate?
When I think about the costs, I think maybe a couple people spent a couple minutes of their time giving opinions they might not have if they had had all the information up front. But tiny hurt feelings seems the biggest downside, I guess, which shouldn’t be too problematic.
Of course if the staffer told the whole truth, an activist could feign support to secure an interaction where they shout down the candidate on their pet issue (“a TAN suit, Barrack?!”).
Personally, I don’t see any deciet here.
Nobody claimed anything, someone just went around asking questions. Personally I wouldn’t care if a red hat came into my Cafe and asked questions like that, and I would give my very strong opinions exactly as I would to anyone else. If they said a republican was about to come in for a PR stunt, I would ask to speak to the owner, and if they’re actually cool with that the they have lost my business.
I still wouldn’t feel like the person who came in was being in nay way subversive.
Honestly if I ran across one of their candidates alone in the middle of the night I might feel the urge to deck them whether I act on it or not, but that exact thing is the reason they should go without stating the reason for the questions and visit fist thing. What if someone were just psychotic and armed? They could quite easily pretend to be the world’s largest supporter in order to get a seat at the next table over for a better shot, instead of the scout saying “that guy in the corner gave strange vibes, better put extra security over there or pass on this one”
Or someone might start throwing shoes…
He’s the guy in the suburbs with the “cowboy up” stickered lifted fuel tuned diesel on 38’s that he’s upside down on payments on because he spent this months trust fund payout on cocaine and ED pills.
We all know that guy.
I like how she asked not to be filmed and they filmed her anyway and then released it.
It really shows how much they care about a woman’s consent.
Could be even more sinister than that. Like if you think about it, why would they want to show that? It doesn’t show anything positive about his campaign or engagement, so releasing that footage won’t help him directly. But he is aware of how aggressive some of Trump’s supporters can be with people they hate. So I wonder if he decided to post that part of the video specifically to trigger the MAGAs that would harass (or worse) the business and/or employees.
I don’t know what the situation in the states is, but wouldn’t she be allowed to sue him for this, because they disrespected their privacy?
It really shows how much they care about a woman’s consent.
I don’t need consent from my TV in order to watch it.
Edit: Ran afoul of Poe’s Law.
“Surely no one would actually believe I was serious right?”
Internet: Gestures broadly
Are you comparing a living breathing woman who’s doing her job to your TV? Like, you do know you need consent to film in a private establishment, right?
I dropped the /s
The point being they consider women to be objects so why would they care about her consent?
This is why people say magapublicans are weird, they’re so out of touch!
Has Vance never been in a bakery before!? Quick tip: when they ask you what you want, don’t reply “I mean a lot of glazed here. Some sprinkle stuff. Some of these cinnamon rolls. Just whatever makes sense.”
What??
Try ordering from the menu. Or ask them what’s good. Or request an assortment of the most popular kinds…
Or lean into your stupid richness. Buy five of everything and just start handing them out.
Oh, no. The one thing rich people never want to do is give people handouts!
They’d claim they handed them out, but in reality only their team got one each, and the rest were thrown away (and sprinkled with poison to make sure they don’t get pulled out of the dumpster)
“I mean a lot of glazed here. Some sprinkle stuff. Some of these cinnamon rolls. Just whatever makes sense.”
You gotta see it from their perspective, they’re CEOs (presumably) and aren’t used to knowing the details. They just vaguely point in vague directions (“pitch”) and let the employees figure out the rest.
“I’m JD Vance I’m running for vice president,” Vance said. “Good to see you.”
The employee sounds unmoved and replies with “okay” and waits for him to begin his order.
Does he expect people to get down on their knees after he tells them that?
“I’m sorry, our couch donuts aren’t glazed.”
JD Vance, tugging on his suddenly sweaty shirt collar: “Oh I think I can help out there.”
The “OK” crushed him. He was expecting any reaction and she could give 2 shits about him. Order your donuts and get the fuck out, ain’t nobody got time for your ass.
Imagine if she had a zinger loaded. “Yeah, you’re the running mate for ‘America’s Hitler.’”
Actually they probably got a bunch of reactions like that and “ok” was the one person that put him in the best light.
