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Well… He did more than that…

He also would join up with one of the male writers (who eventually got fired for sexual harassment stuff) specifically to team up against the female writers.

He was also extremely disrespectful of all of the female members of the crew. It got so bad he was fired from the Witcher AND the DCU movies.

Like yes… He cared a lot about the source material and so he fought for it… But the only people he fought were women and the only people he became friends with were sexually harassing women.

Edit: I’d seen this all multiple places before but doing a quick search here is a source on the most recent round of Netflix and superman stuff

Source

Personally I think a lot of this is overblown. Specifically the not wanting shirtless scenes and stuff is a personal thing that’s up to the comfort of the actor. The bits I don’t like are harassing women and his previous comments about the MeToo movement which make me far more likely to believe the current accusations against him.

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Source?

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I’d seen this all multiple places before but doing a quick search here is a source on the most recent round of Netflix and superman stuff

Source

Personally I think a lot of this is overblown. Specifically the not wanting shirtless scenes and stuff is a personal thing that’s up to the comfort of the actor. The bits I don’t like are harassing women and his previous comments about the MeToo movement which make me far more likely to believe the current accusations against him.

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K. First time seeing this site and the media bias is more like bullshit clickbait. Dude is passionate about source material and willing to walk when they make that bullshit season 3.

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LOL this is the fourth “I have seen it in multiple places” yet keep posting the same sketchy source over and over…

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Their bias and a wildly suspicious source that’s pretty much the podcast my best friend once removed’s half-sister’s uncle listens to

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I’m just sayin’ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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That’s the first I’ve heard of that. Don’t think he was fired from DCU, Gunn just wanted a fresh start is what I heard.

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Hmmmm you got some primary sources for those claims? Not saying you are wrong. It’s just the first time I’ve heard this.

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He’s missing the “controversy” section on his Wikipedia. Which is my litmus test of how big are your red flags

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Huh? So a lack of mention of controversy with sources to back it up is a red flag to you? Weird.

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I’d seen this all multiple places before but doing a quick search here is a source on the most recent round of Netflix and superman stuff

Source

Personally I think a lot of this is overblown. Specifically the not wanting shirtless scenes and stuff is a personal thing that’s up to the comfort of the actor. The bits I don’t like are harassing women and his previous comments about the MeToo movement which make me far more likely to believe the current accusations against him.

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posting the same link over and over doesn’t really help your case bud

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I had a brief look around and these accusations seem to originally come up in a leaked script for an episode of the Duexmoi gossip podcast. Some of the responses to the accusations can be found in this Vulture article, but there’s not a lot in it. As they state, “everybody involved in The Witcher is […] playing nice on the record.” So… *shrug*. Very disappointing if true, but no one’s confirming anything…

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Didn’t he go straight from Witcher to Justice League to Mission Impossible?

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It was actually DC -> MI -> Witcher technically.

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I’ve seen some accusations, which other (also female) members of cast/crew pretty much disprove. So I will echo others - source?

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I’d seen this all multiple places before but doing a quick search here is a source on the most recent round of Netflix and superman stuff

Source

Personally I think a lot of this is overblown. Specifically the not wanting shirtless scenes and stuff is a personal thing that’s up to the comfort of the actor. The bits I don’t like are harassing women and his previous comments about the MeToo movement which make me far more likely to believe the current accusations against him.

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You call it overblown and disapprove… But then keep posting the questionable source.

This is how you get bots to pick up links, and how you start rumors.

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Ah, yes. The “toxic gamer” accusations. Yeah. To me that reads like he was not happy with how they handled source material and did his best to fight it (which yeah, not his place to do that, but as someone who also loves Witcher I can relate). And then they tried to spin it as being mysoginyst (they tried so hard to spin itin any way so that he ends up looking bad back then). Also source of the article being Reddit doesn’t exactly fill me with confidence.

After these accusations I remember other articles with fellow female cast members at the least saying things about hin as a person that are in complete oposition to the accusations.

Not saying he is a saint, I don’t idolize him. But it’s hard for me to believe those accusations.

Romantic plots and shirtless scenes are also included in both books and games of the Witcher so him being against those is super weird as well. Romantic plots are pretty core to some of the stories

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Source: trust me, bro!

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I’d seen this all multiple places before but doing a quick search here is a source on the most recent round of Netflix and superman stuff

Source

Personally I think a lot of this is overblown. Specifically the not wanting shirtless scenes and stuff is a personal thing that’s up to the comfort of the actor. The bits I don’t like are harassing women and his previous comments about the MeToo movement which make me far more likely to believe the current accusations against him.

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Were the only people disrespecting the source material those same women?

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Article they list as a source certainly suggests that.

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Why would you link to an article that just discusses things said on Reddit instead of just linking directly to the thread?

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Honestly I’m not sure why it brings up reddit at all since the reddit thread it’s sourcing is just a link to the podcast that started it all. They should’ve just linked to the podcast?? Idk bad sourcing on the articles end.

Here’s the transcript directly

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Seems like everyone agrees that Netflix and the writers behind the show weren’t following the source material very well and were making a lot of bad decisions in terms of show direction.

Cavill is known to want to keep things close to the source material. It seems implied that the “showrunner” and writers were against that attitude, so when he started pushing back, he gets called a misogynist and g*mer for trying redirect the show.

Sounds to me like film industry bullshit and trying to redirect the narrative from someone wanting the show to stay accurate to him being misogynistic simply because he was contradicting a woman.

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You’re so full of shit, it’s actually impressive.

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It got so bad he was fired from the Witcher AND the DCU movies.

Not sure what happened there but this is plain false… he left the witcher after at least 2 years of complaining the writers were throwing away the source material (the reason he signed on for) to actually go to back to DC since they expected the Black Adam movie to reboot the DCU. When Black Adam bombed spectacularly, any future DCU plans got tossed.

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The show was a different story from the books and game, what source material were they supposed to follow? Tell the same story again? That was not what they proposed or were greenlit for? And he signed on for THAT, not whatever he claimed after, since that’s not what they were doing. So if he thought they were doing an exact reenactment of the books or games, maybe he should read his contracts or the proposal for the shows? This is twice now he’s done this.

He was canned from two different places for refusing to understand they are telling different stories that can’t be identical to the source material. How else do you deal with someone like that? Especially when he started dragging fans into harassing the show runners.

People defend him, since they don’t understand what was going on, but he’s louder and more famous, so he gets his way, until he doesn’t. Maybe the fact his has happened more than once should give people pause…?

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The show was a different story from the books and game, what source material were they supposed to follow?

You said it yourself, the story from the books and game

Tell the same story again?

This is called an adapted script

That was not what they proposed or were greenlit for? And he signed on for THAT

Please provide source for either of these claims. Contracts are often signed when there isn’t even a complete team, let along an adapted script ready

How else do you deal with someone like that? Especially when he started dragging fans into harassing the show runners.

Yeah, what a monster, trying to give fans what they want to watch instead of the majestic crap they produced which was universally hated by those who knew the franchise from before

And by the way, I’m not aware of what other instance you talk about

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Huh? I only watched until season 2 but so far the story was from the books. Just skipping some stuff and remixing it badly.

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who eventually got fired for sexual harassment stuff

The source you linked as well as the screenshot you posted of the quote both say HR complaints.

You can get complaints for all sorts of things, such as being uncooperative and that being read as disrespectful to a superior or a colleague, for instance, or going behind a superior’s or colleague’s back, which sounds like exactly what was going on, and since they could not touch the literal star of the show they canned his only ally instead.

Since you said you thought this was blown out of proportion, don’t contribute to blowing shit out of proportion.

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The blown out of proportion was referring to him not wanting to be sexualized. I don’t think it should be held against an actor that they won’t want to always be shirtless. That’s fine and I respect him for it.

The problem is everything else.

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I know, I was pointing out your hypocrisy and selective criticism.

You still have not acknowledged you hallucinated or lied about the “sexual” part of the accusations.

Nowhere in your sources does it mention the writer receiving sexual harassment claims, he was the subject of HR complaints, which if you worked in corporate environments you’d know are both extremely easy to weaponize and don’t necessarily have anything sexual about them.

Calling a colleague a dipshit or incompetent in a public setting would be cause for an HR complaint and neither is even remotely sexual.

Thoughts, or will you keep ignoring that?

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Not to mention the show was supposed to be a different story from the books AND game which are vastly different already (which no one seems to comprehend when talking about this topic) he got fans and everyone else to capitulate his demands to show runners that it meet source material. How is a unique story supposed to meet source material…?

The guy is delusional and it’s cost him roles, yet his rabid fanbase defends him relentlessly since they refuse to educate themselves on anything he spews.

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How was it a unique story, when everything happens in the books? The head writer and producers just tried, and failed, to be better than the original by adding useless confusion and killing important characters. The games are different in that they play after the books and extend the world.

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I asked you in another comment and you ignored me, but what’s the same between the books and show? The skeleton is the same, but most characters, events and places are different.

Why the obvious lie? You just expecting sympathy from other people who haven’t read the source materials and assume they all tell the same thing? When the don’t.

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Careful, the fanboys don’t like that sorta talk

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A cardinal sin in Hollywood.

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Love him for giving a shit. Going off source was GoT’s downfall

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There was no source material for the last few seasons

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Exactly.

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True, but the shows writing diverged from the books before the source material ran out

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Still waiting to see Lady Stoneheart…

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Yes, they had no other choice than to come up with their own story in this case. Still, it went downhill hard once there were no more books to cling to. Either their writers or the people directing them weren’t up to the task.

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I bet he turned down the role of Wolverine with “I’m too tall.”

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Yeah, generally a good idea, but the guy who wrote the Witcher was kind of an asshole who hates videogames, right?

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I don’t know the story very well but he sold the rights for super cheap because he thought they would be a dumb failure but then later got butthurt and tried to get more after they were a huge success

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Yes but if I am not mistaken he also made a statement that he dislikes all videogames in general. Viewing them as an inferior artform or a passing fad. Not just the Witcher videogames in particular.

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Oh I’m not aware of that but it would make sense

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