Voters over 70 are backing Harris over Trump, 51 to 48 percent, Emerson College poll finds

A new poll shows some baby boomers and members of the Silent Generation are switching allegiances from former President Donald Trump to Vice President Kamala Harris.

The Emerson College poll released Thursday  shows voters over 70 backing Harris over Trump 51 to 48 percent. That’s a small but positive shift for Harris, as last month, 50 percent of the group supported Trump while 48 percent backed President Joe Biden, who dropped out of the race and endorsed Harris last month.

The group includes some baby boomers, who were born between 1946 and 1964, and the Silent Generation, born between 1925 and 1945.

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How about that. Harris moves to the left on domestic economic issues, and boomers switch to her. Even as prominent Republicans call her a commie.

Conventional “wisdom” within the centrist wing of the party is that we have to move to the right because boomers will flee in panic if we dare move to the left. Turns out, centrists have been full of shit this entire time. We’ve wasted so many years moving to the right for a lie. What else are centrists full of shit about?

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Harris moves to the left on domestic economic issues, and boomers switch to her.

You might be making a classical correlation is not causation mistake here. There are a lot of separate reasons to prefer Harris over Trump.

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Where were you for the past few decades when centrists were gleefully announcing that all wins are because they moved to the right, and any losses are because they were too far to the left?

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Here in Europe, where we are not burdened by two-party systems :-|

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That one 100% is. They post regularly around here claiming that their protests are the reason Biden step down. Not the hulking disaster that was his debate performance. For 6 months protestors screamed at the president and not the congress that was responsible. With no result. Well detached from reality.

It’s depressing that so many with that mentality exist. Or at least are so loud. The myopic focus on the president who doesn’t authorize Aid or fund Aid to foreign governments. Has led to real losses for those of us that want to see Israel held accountable for their genocide. A number of National Congress people who are profile signed have lost their positions. Effectively being replaced by much more pro-israel people. And all this time of After ignoring Senate and House races. Not Fielding and supporting better candidates to take part of the body that actually could fix this. There’s still threatening to hurt the few who remain by threatening to take away the party’s control of another branch of government. They still haven’t realized that holding yourself hostage leaves you with no Leverage realistically.

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That one 100% is. They post regularly around here claiming that their protests are the reason Biden step down. Not the hulking disaster that was his debate performance. For 6 months protestors screamed at the president and not the congress that was responsible. With no result. Well detached from reality.

It’s depressing that so many with that mentality exist.

The mentality that protests are effective?

I could as easily voice my sadness that mentalities like yours are so prevalent. How do you believe politics work? Do politics happen in tv and the ballot box only? Do you claim the protests had no effect at all? Even if that were true your words have the effect of dismissing direct action, deriding that type of participation in politics. What good purpose do these words serve?

Finally, your… outrageous dismissal of bidens role in the genocide “those people” have been “screaming about” is… Well i’m not going there. If youve come to that conclusion somehow it ain’t gone be me what changes it.

How can it be that you spent energy remembering ensign_crabs name but not enough to understand a thing theyve posted? If you’re going to ad hominem, then a cultered commenter demands you provide more evidence than your fee-feez.

Write less, pardner. You don’t see enough to say anything useful, and certainly not enough to cast stones.

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Oh good. My stalker is here.

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What else are centrists full of shit about?

They’re full of shit about being “centrist”. Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation. Every word.

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What aren’t they full of shit about?

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Literally everything.

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did they finally realize GOP is going to take everything away from everyone who isn’t a billionaire and give it to billionaires? like they started in 16?

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Started in `16? I think you meant '81.

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40 points

I mean the Business Plot was in ‘33

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The concept crystalized at the core of the Republican party in the 1960s

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Just after operation paperclip peeps had enough time to get settled and stuff

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After 8 years of Trump on the national stage I think some formerly captured boomers are starting to get bored of the bullshit. At some point even cultists wake up one morning and say, “oh, it’s porridge and word salad again, fuck me, will we ever get anything more than empty promises.” His recent speeches are embarrassing. Vance is a joke. The republican party is completely morally and ethically bankrupt.

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Sooo many boomers I know were so annoyed with Trump v Biden, saying “Anyone but these two.”

They got their wish.

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“The first party to retire its 80-year-old candidate is going to be the party that wins this election." ~Nikki Hailey

Looks like she might have been right.

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If she’d been nominated instead of Trump the GOP would win on a walk.

2 Democrats haven’t been elected into office twice in a row since before the Civil War (a VEEPS were elevated to the office through deaths) - this should have been easy for the GOP, but instead they nominated the most-divisive politician in American history.

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I really hate these headlines. 1. The actual shift is tiny (don’t get complacent). 2. Soon enough the media will be bored and cherrypick some numbers that are good for Trump generating new headlines. Anything to ensure the debate is not about policy.

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“oh, it’s porridge and word salad again, fuck me, will we ever get anything more than empty promises.”

same with democrats and the ones of us who have escaped the Matrix are ridiculed by both parties for speaking against either corpo party

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Awesome whataboutism.

Of the two sides, which of them is more open and honest and actually passes policies to help people? And which is one that name calls and blocks any policy just because the other side made it.

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45 points

Yay, the both sides morons are back. 🙄

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Dope word salad, looks delicious

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Can you guys at least get some new material? You say the same thing over and over and over again.

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It might help if they watch a movie that isn’t The Matrix. Let’s start with that.

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that is because our leaders keep failing us on the same things over and over again

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The old people I know are happy to volunteer that other old people need to get out of the way for the younger generation.

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As an old person, I approve this message. It’s exhausting to keep screwing things up for everyone that comes after us.

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When it comes to Harris’s running mate Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, 39 percent of voters have a favorable view. The same number has a favorable view of Trump’s number two, Ohio Senator JD Vance.

But 49 percent of voters have an unfavorable view of Vance while only 39 percent have an unfavorable view of Walz.

I can’t believe Walz and Vance have the same favorable view.

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That’s what you get when fox news spouts outright lies and deception 24/7, when facebook controls the algorithm and gives zero fucks about content moderation, when campaigns are able to spend millions on attack ads, etc.

The U.S. election system is a joke.

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The U.S. election system is a joke.

FTFY

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You’re not wrong.

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The U.S. election system is a joke.

The aristocrats.

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He’s nationally unknown. As people get to know him more you’ll see his favorable grow. Vance’s won’t.

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The larger number of ‘not sure’ may be due to having three extra weeks of knowing of Vance. Some people either are truly not sure or at least want to sound like they are carefully evaluating a candidate they only heard about in the last couple of weeks.

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People like my mother, who, when asked about Vance responds “I’ve yet to read his works”; when asked about Walz “oh you mean Tom Cilz, right?”

Its the lead poisoning

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That’s true.

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I can’t believe Walz and Vance have the same favorable view.

A lot of this is generically partisan. Walz has a 10% higher “Never heard of him” figure, and that’s going to change depending on how the media frames him. I’m less worried about what actual Republican media tries (they’ve been pretty ham-handed with their early snipes) and much more worried what we’re going to see out of the Papers Of Record, given that the NYT/WaPo Op-Ed boards were seriously gunning for Shapiro and now they’re all being pissy about it.

But I also think Trump’s kinda-sorta right, in saying that people don’t really care about your VP. These are going to be hyper-partisan elections. The idea that you’re going to have Republicans break ranks for Harris because of Walz feels overly optimistic. Not when they’re still stuck on the FOX News bandwagon, and they’re inevitably going to get an earful about how Tim personally lead a delegation of illegal Chinese Muslim Immigrants to a factory town in Ohio to hold up the jobs factory and steal all the jobs.

Overall favorability is going to decay as the parties go hard into the negative ads. And I fully believe this is going to be one of the grossest elections of my lifetime, what with Dems finally deciding to be mean to Republicans and Republicans being even more desperate and hysterical than usual.

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You can make a poll give you any result you want. Just like with elections and gerrymandering.

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Those numbers are such bullshit. 538 has just a solid line of 39% or whatever the fuck. Literally nothing makes a difference. You know, we used to put world events on these graphs and see how the populace responded. Now… just line. They’re not human.

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