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US thing I’m guessing? Here in Sweden, we don’t get much spam mail in the first place but you simply put a “no ads” sign on your mailbox and then only get the stuff you need. The 8 years I’ve lived in my current apartment I’ve gotten like 3 things that weren’t bills and stuff I need.

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In the US, conservative lawmakers have been waging a quiet war against our postal system for a while now.

Highlights: They forced it to be self-sustaining (cut federal funding), then when that didn’t kill it they forced it to, in a very short time frame, pre-fund retirement benefits ahead of time for all current and former employees.

The postal system is more or less dependent on the funds it gets from spam mailers.

Edit: To clarify, I’m not insinuating that the bulk/majority of its income is from junk mail, I’m just stating that its not nothing, so they don’t really have an incentive to kill that source if revenue.

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Canada as well. There’s been pushes to privatize the postal service so they can race to the bottom for profit.

It’s very saddening that people fall for this and delude themselves into thinking companies will compete to provide a better service.

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Yep, look at phone companies, healthcare, prisons and ISP’s in the US to see how privatizing these things shakes out. It’s not pretty.

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It’s one of the only things in the constitution they are required to have. I don’t understand how privatizing it was ever constitutional.

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The Constitution hasn’t mattered for a while, only the parts of it the Court likes… Which is increasingly little of it.

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I recently got denied for a public housing program in the US.

I did not find out about this until I was at the local public assistance office for another reason, where I just randomly happened to be told that I was denied by the person who was apparently my case manager.

She said she mailed it a few days ago and was surprised I didn’t get it.

2 weeks later and the actual denial letter never arrived.

Keep in mind, almost all government assistance programs in most of the US will correspond by you via mail only. If they email or phone call you, well you still need to show up in person or mail them for most important applications.

And… if they mail you something, they’ll often give you maybe 10 days (not business days, even though everything they do takes business days) to respond and have your response be received by, or they’ll permanently bar you from whatever you are applying for and file it as ‘refused to provide documentation.’

So if your shit gets lost in the mail, fuck you, nobody cares!

I have said this in various places on lemmy at other times and people seem to think I am joking, but I am not: If anyone from a functioning country wants to do a sham marriage for tax benefits and I can immigrate there, please let me know. Living off of disability payments alone fucking sucks here.

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would be so cool if the government did cryptography

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I mean… We’ve always had just as much spam mail.

Where’d all the funding go previously then if it’s now all used to support themselves?

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Yeah they have to respect it by law, same in Norway

Everything important is by digital mail now though, not to be confused with email …

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Now you’re just rubbing it in:

Most people might think that any e-mail provider is good enough, but a digital mailbox is a bit different from an e-mail. The Norwegian digital mailbox is tied to your identity, and much more secure than an e-mail inbox is.

https://thenorwayguide.com/digital-mailbox/

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Does Norway have a digital mailbox run by the government, or just lots of private options? No, I don’t want Kivra data mining all my mail… so I only have MinMyndighetsPost, but doesn’t cover anything except government mail.

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Ran by the post office.

https://www.digipost.no/

Important mail from the government usually just comes in the government portal.

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That’s it, start the bidding

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The US’s junk post is mostly ADR (addressed direct advertising) just like Sweden, no?

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put a “no ads” sign on your mailbox

holy shit a irl spam filter

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Norwegian here, I moved to Ireland once and while I stayed there I really gained an appreciation for how intolerant my home country is of bullshit ads.

I wished I could prosecute and fine every single company that sent me those ads in the mail while I lived there. I wanted to ruin them, I would have voted for it in an instant if I could.

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Australia seems to be pretty good. You can add “a no junk mail” sticker to your mailbox and then the only things you get are addressed mail and political leaflets

Practically all my bills come by email, and packages go to the front doorstep, so a letter is a surprise

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Man I’ve been giving the ASPCA $20 a month for years and not a single address label…

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12 points

Try Heifer International

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Well you see there’s your problem, you were supposed to be donating to the ASCPA

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4 points

What’s an address label? (I’m not american)

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Label you put in the corner of your outgoing mail that has your name and address preprinted on it so you don’t have to write it.

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If I lived in the US I’d have liked to vote to make it illegal to deliver promotional / junk / “Standard” mail to mailboxes with a standardized and large “NO ADS” label in specified spots on the front and sides, with a small fine for the post worker and very large fines for the companies in the ads.

I would not be happy to sit and sort through piles of junk for the rest of my life, with it without knowing that “Standard” is all junk.

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In France you just put a sticker or something on your box saying “no ads” and that’s it, no more ads posted. It really is quite a bunch of paper every week, too!

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Obviously the Internet should remain as public and free as it is/as possible but you just made me want to sell it to France

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Same in Australia. Doesn’t stop the pious “holier than thou” shits from illegally filling my letterbox with crap advertising their church

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Mail it back to them with a box of bricks with costs to receiver

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In the US you just shoot the people that try to put ads in your mailbox. Not a lawyer tho so idk. shrug

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LPT: probably shouldn’t do this

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LPT: If you aren’t caught it isn’t a crime

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Thanks for the warning, i almost shot the mailman.

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No, don’t shoot the mailman, shoot the machine sorting the mail.

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3 points

ILPT: probably should do this

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7 points

This post was written by a dog with a gun.

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How does this nonsense comment even have upvotes?

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21 points

Jokes are funny

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Weird, unrelated comment, but yeah—jokes are indeed funny.

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Yeah idk man, my brain just produces things and sometimes they just happen to turn into typed text.

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Nonsense is a fun reprieve when the topic is fuggen bills/junk mail?

Hate is for bitches. You’re not a bitch, right?

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A tip if you’re in the USA, look at the top right of envelope. If it says “presorted standard” it’s garbage.

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In Germany it’s “Dialogpost” or “Postwurf Spezial”

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10 points

Der junkenmailer

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