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Not being shot also helps

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Also not being run over by cars, and having the ability to walk/bike/take transit to get to places.

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Netherlands doesn’t represent the whole europe. This isn’t the cycling/public transport utopia you think it is.

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While true compared to the USA almost every city in Europe is a bicycle dream.

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As someone living in a country with universal healthcare I truly do wish it was like people online make it sound to be. Turns out you got to wait for a long time to see a doctor and you have to pay for it. Obviously it wont bankrupt you like it would in the US, but it’s not exactly free either.

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That’s usually down to underfunding than anything else, though. The NHS, for example, is a shadow of what it was like 20 years ago, thanks to years of purposeful underfunding.

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And the prupose of the underfunding is to create the conditions on which to sell a fully privatized healthcare system to the population.

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Same. I live in Germany and used to live in the US (both with and without insurance). I would rather be here and support this system where everyone has access to Healthcare, but there is much I miss from the US. The care I got in the US (obviously stupid expensive) was better, easier and quicker. With that said, the care here is fine and enough and available for all but shouldn’t be viewed through the rose colored glasses of americans.

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I think it is a bit unfair to speak of rose colored glasses there.

There is many people in the US who simply cannot afford an ambulance being called for them, if they are in a serious health situation. The people that have “rose colored” glasses in this context are the people whose options are “any healthcare” and “no healthcare”.

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I would love to not have to pay $800usd +$200 monthly insurance just to get a questionable mole removed :')

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They take a little over one third of my pay check in taxes, which includes welfare (pension, etc) and healthcare, wealth tax and stuff.

You still pay for it, but when it really makes the difference is for the unlucky, who need lengthy and/or expensive care, they are supported by the better off, “mutual assistance”.

Of course some people want to reap the benefits of living in a modern society without having to do their part.

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It is also much cheaper. The US spends double the amount of money per capita on healthcare than compareable western european countries.

Universal healthcare is so much more efficient. When Obama was asked why he just wanted to do the ACA and not universal healthcare he said, that there is 3 million jobs in the adminsitrative side of private health insurance, that would fall away otherwise. But those people could work other jobs and provide a benefit to the economy. The inefficiency of the US system is insane.

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Universal healthcare might help but it is also–

  1. Auto accidents driven by car culture.
  2. Higher drug and alcohol abuse rates.
  3. Higher suicide rates driven by access to firearms.
  4. A culture of unhealthy eating that leads to obesity, heart disease, and increased risk of cancer.
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Is alcohol abuse more prevalent in the US?

The US alcohol consumption avg. is 2.51 gallons, or 9.5 litres per person and year. In the EU the average is also 9.5 litres per person and year. For drug abuse i know the US have the specific opiod problem, but that also seems to be a result of a poor healthcare system, where taking painkillers until addiction is chosen over actually solving the underlying injuries for monetary reasons.

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In Europe it’s more common to drink socially, in America it’s more common to drink to be numb. There’s a big psychological difference between a glass of wine at the family dinner table and a beer in front of the TV to forget about work, even if the amount of alcohol is the same.

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The difference between social and indiidual drinking as an indicator for addiction is a myth. Getting drunk with other people regularly is equally a sign of addiction, like it is to do so by yourself.

The pressure many cultures have around social drinking in Europe are also indicative of that. It is not truly optional to have a drink in many contexts.

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