Update: I got banned from hexbear and grad lmao

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Ah, I see you said something controversial, like “Theocracy bad” or “Imperialist capitalist state bad”. The tankies don’t like those positions for some reason.

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Bruh I poked the hexbear once when a dude was arguing over exactly how to classify the Uyiger genocide. Something about how “it’s not a genocide, but just an ethnic cleansing” they really didn’t like when I pointed out just how weird of an argument that is. Fascists usually short circuit pretty fast under redicule

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it’s not a genocide, but just an ethnic cleansing

Those are synonyms, FFS. 🤦‍♂️

Dude needs to crack open a dictionary or a thesaurus.

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It’s only a genocide if it comes from the state of Germany. Everything else is just sparkling ethnic cleansing. /S

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I had one argue “the Soviet space program did amazing things without the benefits of imperialism”, which is a statement I can only ridicule. Then, to prove how not imperialist the Soviet Union was, he proceeded to explain how much imperialism the United States did. Yes, I’m quite aware of how much imperialism the United States did. That’s not the issue here.

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I originally joined Lemmy with a lemmy.ml account by mistake. I was arguing with a brainlet who told me the Soviets could not possibly have been bad because they fought the Nazis. When I asked what that meant regarding apartheid USA I got banned from .ml.

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oh you spoke to the developers too? haha

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If you simply choose to embrace the same euphemism for genocide as them and also pretend that having a euphemism excuses the genocide, then you could get along.

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All I did was point out how their meme responses were childish and cringy.

Banned.

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My experience on lemmy is vastly improved after blocking lemmygrad, lemmy.ml, hexbear, beehaw, and pawb. Wiped out vast swathes of degenerates from my feed.

Sure, occasionally poking them with a stick can be funny, but if you don’t like your scrolling punctuated with muttering “oh fuck off” under your breath every few minutes – it’s nice.

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Beehaw? I’ve had nothing but good interactions with them, personally.

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I can’t remember why I blocked them exactly, to be honest, but I remember thinking they were almost as annoying as hexbear users, and I can’t be bothered to go have a second look now to see exactly why. Clearly, I was annoyed with them enough to block them, as the ones I listed above are the only instances I have blocked save for lemmynsfw (which is just because I don’t care for porn in my feed).

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They’re alright now, but they used to be pretty bad. No negativity allowed whatsoever.

I remember there was some sort of thread asking disabled people if they like being disabled…

and the people who said no were banned for being negative lol

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Beehaw? The most adorable place in the lemmy space IMO!

If you don’t like them fine, but please reconsider lumpung them together with the crazy fascist ones please 😊

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??? (Mostly) Nothing wrong with Beehaw or pawb.social, most are good people around those parts

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now I might not remember why I blocked beehaw but I know damn well the animal fetishists are not “good people”, thank you

and just from your instance name… yeah that’s another one for the list

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Animal fetishists?! You mean… furries?

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I don’t know, yiffit folks seem very nice. Not always safe for work, though.

I think my instance already bans beehaw, though. I forget why, unfortunately.

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I did say something controversial (apparently) on grad and simply asked what I said wrong and having an open mind showed that they can interact normally… But Hexbear is just straight up poisoning me lol

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I recently added midwest.social to my list.

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I guess I understand, but I dig through all the shit to bring my starving people fresh maymay each day anyway.

Its not much, but I do it for those ungrateful bastards just the same.

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You blocked lemmy.ml? Why

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Beehaw and pawb are peculiar blocks but .ml can be a bit trying. Many users have been swept into, what they believe to be, militant communist zeitgeist. Their opinions exist within an echo-chamber surreptitiously safeguarded by their extremely banhappy admins. Mind that it would be acceptable if they were to openly offer their rule list, including “do not criticize communism, communists, communist countries, China, Russia, or the war in Ukraine” but they refuse to do so given how unpopular and weird that would be if it were visible to their users. If you care to verify, post a picture of tank man or suggest that Russia should leave Ukraine in one of their communities and enjoy your two week vacation from .ml.

Users range from confused and corralled to militant and chronically angry and many don’t understand why. Frankly, most .ml users are fine but their communities are breeding grounds for frustration, delusions, and misinformation. The prime example of admin sanctioned crazy goes by the name of yogthos if you, once again, wish to verify.

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Gladly most of them blocked us(ani.social), i only blocked Lemmy.world and Midwest.social one for spam and one because seahorse is a powertripping asshole.

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Wow, your reasoning is uh… well it sure is interesting… can’t say I see where you’re coming from. lemmy.world is like the most conservative instance I can think of

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idunno if criticism of Israel can automatically be antisemitic when they’re a diverse country of different ethnicities and religions.

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I can screenshot your comments as well, doesn’t make them more or less correct. I stand by what i said, lemmy.world is full of people i would call woke, or rather fall into the woke spectrum of my country.

This is objectively correct and downvotes won’t change that.

And when LW is the most conservative instance you can think of, i think your moral compass is upside down. I did see some “conservatives” (nazis) on LW but the majority belongs to the new left movement, especially regarding their antisemitism.

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What’s your beef with seahorse?

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I’ve been there, but I mostly just do it anyway. Fuck it, I said what I said. Half the time you don’t even get anything all that cutting, it’s just png salad. Every now and then, you’ll get a coherent response that isn’t a death threat, and those end up being good reads more often than not.

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Eh, more often than not their longer posts are just “actually Stalin/Putin/Mao/Kim dynasty/Trump good because <5 page essay>”

Edit: also the classic “comparing Stalin to Hitler is a form of Holocaust denial” and in the same breath calling everyone not in their vatnik bubble a nazi or fascist lmao

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And of course, if you don’t address every single point in that 5 page essay, along with doing all of their required reading, then you’re clearly acting in bad faith and a shitlib and are now going to be dogpiled by 27 other Hexbear users.

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“If you do not take tankie.blogspot as a serious source then you are WRONG AND I WIN. I WIN! I WIN! I WIN!”

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Bro I had this commie from lemmy.ml post a meme advertising for how great communism was. And I told him how the state was authoritarian and basically didn’t care much about human rights and the millions of people starving to death. I got wall of text and he got upset when I used wikipedia as a source. I’m sure if I used some news outlet he’d just say that’s western propaganda so I ended up blocking the guy and later the instance.

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Apologia is not allowed. Continue, and you’ll be banned.

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Yeah I don’t think much of it either… They just take offense to something doesn’t even apply to them lol

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I’ve never been able to figure out the basic ideas behind their opinions. It’s something like US conservatives, where it’s something stupider than you can even guess at, but less predictable.

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Understand that some or most of the key posters there are literally pawns of Russian or Chinese intelligence. Troll farms, wumao, what have you. Whether they are literally government employees or contracted through a third party, their purpose is to astroturf positive optics of their employer and negative optics of the US/the West as a whole. A more sinister interpretation, they are trying to destabilize the West by doing things like trashing Biden, now Harris, hoping to secure a chaotic and inwardly destructive Trump presidency.

Anything they say is to service these goals, anything they believe is mutable to these goals, and nothing they argue is in good faith.

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But doesnt china block hexbear?

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For others but their info opsec is uninhibited. The crux of authoritarians is “rules for the but not for me”.

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Sure, they don’t want themselves to be destabilized by this nonsense.

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I don’t buy that at all. Lemmy is far too small for foreign agents to be posting propaganda. Why would they try to convince people who don’t need convincing?

Tankies already suckle foreign propaganda, ain’t no need to directly influence them.

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It does not take much effort to throw some 3rd party troll farm a few dimes a post.

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I’ve seen some downright insane takes on how what the Chinese are doing to the Uighurs is not as bad as it seems.

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It sure is odd how hexbear loves the absolute fuck out of Russia and China.

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it’s very simple.

us bad.

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yeah by the lemmy devs

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Yu’re pretty much outlining the problem. Yes, the people on hexbear and ‘omg I’m so leftist’ on the rest of lemmy strongly support Russia and China, who are not “America’s designated enemy countries” simply because Americans unilaterally claimed it or something, but are geopolitical and military rivals who straight up say they oppose the US. There’s nothing politically special about either country that makes them worthy of leftist support other than hatred of America, yes. It’s a pretty pathetic concept to base your political views on since it’s not even remotely consistent. These bold intellectual luminaries should move to Russia if they think it’s so great (that is, assuming they don’t already live there). Most likely they live cushy lives in Western Europe while whining about how great the CCCP is.

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I got banned from hexbear and lemmygrad like a year ago without ever even posting in either community, just for arguing with some of their users under a post on lemmy.ml

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The only surprise there is that you weren’t banned from lemmy.ml also.

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Oh I have been banned from lemmy.ml like 6 times but only temporarily. Lemmygrad and hexbear just went for a permaban for just arguing with their users on a separate instance.

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That’s because lemmy.ml is tankie

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