126 points

Fucker has the nerve to call Walz a traitor for retiring after 24 years of service when his runningmate incited an actual goddamn insurrection and he, himself, is a fucking turncoat…

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Don’t get mad. That’s what they want.

Get weirded out.

Because that’s what they deserve. Said by Mr. Walz himself.

Calling a serviceman a traitor? Fucking weird. It makes no sense, man. Where do they get that weird logic from? Buncha weirdos.

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Calling a serviceman a traitor? Fucking weird.

I mean, Michael Flynn exists.

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10 points

Who is also really weird

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4 points

Oh right. I forgot about that one.

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5 points

This is the weirdest shit I’ve heard all day!

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4 points

Yeah. That’s kind of weird, don’t you think?

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77 points

And yet completely avoiding service because of “bone spurs” is totally acceptable.

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It’s really really difficult to take any attacks on Walz’s service seriously while captain bone spurs leads the party.

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And disrespected fallen soldiers at a cemetery.

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And not any cemetery, Arlington National Cemetery.

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captain bone spurs

Private Bone Spurs.

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14 points

Also threatening his children of disinheritance if they serve in the military.

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49 points

He’s just butthurt that Walz said he wouldn’t get off the couch to debate him.

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There you go. That’s what it is.

It’s a classic “no u” retort. It was ineffective.

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He’s trying. For reference, Vance did 4 years active duty in the USMC in Public Affairs.

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Walz, on the other hand, served for 24 years and reached the highest possible rank of NCO, which is basically the most badass thing you can be in the regular sectors of the military (and in the aggregate the most critical for its good operation.)

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TLDR: Tim Walz’s record trumps Vance’s any fucking day of the week.

NCO isn’t considered bad ass but is absolutely given all due respect. You’ll salute NCO’s just like any other officer, but you know he’s less likely to give you shit about uniform reqs. My favorite grey beards were always the Short TImer NCO’s that didn’t have 2 fucks to rub together about protocol.

Another thing is Tim should whip out his Rack and slap Vance with his silver oak clusters.Vance didn’t even get a GWOT! Vance only has a couple participation trophies. Walz has a bonafied 3" rack.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JD_Vance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Walz

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What? You two both are talking like you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about. Tim Walz was a Command Sergeant Major, which makes him an E9. This is no longer an NCO, this is a SNCO or Senior Non Commissioned Officer. You also don’t salute any enlisted members; E1 or E9, it doesn’t matter, you don’t salute them. Becoming E9 is quite prestigious though as it is the only enlisted rank to get DV status at bases (at least Air Force bases which I can attest to having spent 10 years in the Air Force myself).

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You missed the part where he reached SGM but retired as MSG because he didn’t complete a course. I don’t think many people would drop rank.

Also, I think CSM is technically higher rank?

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You have it one too low - he reached CSM but retired as an SGM because of coursework.

There is actually one rank higher, E-9, which is the singular final boss of all the NCOs, which I guess is a significant asterisk I should put to that “highest rank.” He reached the highest rank there is more than one of allowed to exist at a time.

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14 points

I saw that and immediately thought of Tom Cruise’s character in the beginning of Edge of Tomorrow.

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5 points

But like the meme version. Erdge erv Termerrerr.

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Yes, it’s bizarre that this doesn’t get specifically cited in an article where Vance is criticising his opponent’s involvement in a war. All we get is this very vague line:

Vance is a former Marine who was deployed to Iraq.

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Vance was a combat correspondent, yes. We’ll see how much he tries to press this issue, he has previously stated [1] he was lucky to escape any major fighting, but he was definitely in Iraq.

I don’t think Walz has ever claimed to have seen active combat, so the stolen valor accusation falls a little flat - not that that’s going to stop republicans.


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7 points

Ask a Marine, still a pog.

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Yup. Same for me, but yup.

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I give it a week before Republicans start building conspiracy theories about Walz’s time in China and facilitating student trips to China.

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3 points

Don’t forget he speaks a little Mandarin.

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They already are calling them paid vacations or indoctrination trips on Facebook.

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41 points

Since I had to look it up:

Since the 2004 election, the term [Swiftboating] has come to commonly refer to a political attack that is dishonest, personal, and unfair.

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I just aged like Matt Damon at the end of Saving Private Ryan.

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17 points

Especially if it’s attacking military service.

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Have to make up innocuous sounding word rather than just say ASSHOLE SAYS SHITTY THINGS THAT AREN’T TRUE. “Journalists” literally can’t.

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