185 points

You can sue people for choosing not to do business with you?

Musk is such a fucking baby. He has no basis for this. He made major changes to the site, including a complete rebrand, and advertisers left. That’s the fucking free market, and he’s gonna sue?

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Even funnier, he literally told advertisers to go fuck themselves lol. Now he goes whining back to Mommy for new rules for his little kingdom.

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42 points

He can sue, but he won’t win in any sane court.

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52 points

No sane court? So it has a real chance of being decided by The Supreme Court…

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25 points

They’d never even hear it. To give this lawsuit any credibility, they’d have to effectively say that businesses spending/donating money is not free speech. Which would effectively be the opposite of Citizens United.

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15 points

You can sue people for choosing not to do business with you?

You can sue people for whatever you want. But that’s not what they’re suing them for, if you actually read the article. They’re suing for collusion.

X CEO Linda Yaccarino said in a video announcement that the lawsuit stemmed in part from evidence uncovered by the U.S. House Judiciary Committee, which she said showed a “group of companies organized a systematic illegal boycott” against X.

The Republican-led committee had a hearing last month looking at whether current laws are “sufficient to deter anticompetitive collusion in online advertising.”

I don’t know if that’s illegal or not.

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37 points

Ah yes, the pinnacle of small govt: legislating how advertisers spend their money when they won’t spend that money on Republican platforms

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5 points

It would make an interesting precedent. Bud Light can then sue over the boycott with the whole LGBTQ thing because some didn’t buy their beer. Celebrities being cancelled can try to sue magazines for not running their articles or ads. It’s going to be such an unholy mess.

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Did you just not read the comment you replied to? None of those things involve any sort of collusion.

E: Lots of downvotes and zero explanations… You people just lose all sense of rationality and objectivity when Musk is in the conversation.

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117 points

You can sue your… customers, basically for choosing not to do business with you!?

Even if he wins a one-time payment (no way), how could this do anything but make everyone not want to advertise on Twitter??

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I can’t wrap my head around the ridiculousness of it. Or grasp why some US political figures are lapping it up.

Imagine McDonald’s suing you because you didn’t buy enough big macs this quarter. It’s crazy. You’re not automatically entitled to having customers.

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25 points

Please drink verification can

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Pure speculation on the only real way it could have merit:

Sometimes there actually are contracts for minimum spending. This happens with actual physical products in exchange for a better bulk price, and would usually take extraordinary events to breach the contract on the manufacturer’s side to break as the purchaser, because it may involve stuff like building up manufacturing capacity. In that context, it’s a perfectly legitimate business practice.

The economics of websites are different, but (without direct knowledge of anyone’s practices) it’s within the realm of plausibility that similar contracts exist on big advertising platforms. It’s valuable for larger advertisers to keep price down, and it’s valuable for the platforms to have a steady base level of advertising.


If those contracts do exist, then the case might have the potential to be interesting. How badly does a platform have to materially degrade the value of their advertising before advertisers are able to back out of pre-existing deals? (The other option is collusion, but good luck showing cause for that.)

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25 points

You don’t understand. Bad publicity is good publicity.

Or maybe, in this particular case… No publicity.

No publicity is good bad publicity like… Well yeah you might have a point there

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9 points

Elon is the dumbest genius 🤦‍♂️

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To quote Legal Eagle on Nebula: it depends. Suppose that the customers had a deal with Twitter granting them special pricing, but on the condition that they spend a certain amount during a given period. Then the customers could be breaching the terms of the contract by dropping out halfway through. I’m not saying that’s what’s happening here, and IANAL of course, but it seems plausible to me.

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So what you are thinking is all the media outlets are so shit they didn’t read the case and none of them found it saying, breach of contract. Could be true with how a lot of reporting goes these days, but why would the lawyers for X have not just said, this suit is about breach of contract, not conspiracy to boycott a poor billionaire’s company he is embezzling money to through Tesla?

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I haven’t read the case either. But what I do know is the news media isn’t always as nuanced in their reporting of court cases, as the cases warrants.

If that is the case here I don’t know. Musk is a POS, so everything is definitely possible. All I’m saying is that if it actually is a breach of contract, then Musk could have a case.

But imagine signing a contract, where you have to buy a set amount of advertising, with no clause about the site’s conduct and reputation.

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2 points

You can in case of protected group discrimination sue the business, but suing customers is something new.

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90 points

This is hilarious.

Should every company, regardless of whether they’ve advertised on Twitter before, be federally mandated to spend a certain percentage of their advertising budget on Musk’s little shitshow?

What, exactly, is the solution he has in mind?

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Advertising communism apparently. 🤣

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10 points

Well it would go well together with the corporate socialism…

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3 points

We gone full circle.

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23 points

More government intervention in markets, because that’s what Republicans stand f- oh wait, er…

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77 points

One of the most poignant comments I’ve seen on this is it’s a ploy to draw attention from his PAC and other negative media

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While I think it will have that effect, Musk isn’t smart enough to have thought about it that deeply.

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6 points

Don’t underestimate him. He’s shown he’s a spoiled brat, but he’s not shown that he’s incapable of elaborate and spiteful plots to get his way.

A smart decision in his eyes might be a dumb one in ours but that doesn’t mean he’s actually stupid.

Writing him off as an idiot is a one way ticket to being blindsided while you’re distracted by something else.

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But I do think he’s an idiot. There’s nothing to suggest he is intelligent beyond the average person, and many decisions he’s made that suggest he’s less intelligent.

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Dunno how much attention it’s gonna draw away from it when it inevitably comes out that his PAC funded the committee that turned over the “evidence” that’s being used to prop up his court case.

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ETA: He really is a 13yo in a 53yo body.

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