“[F]or a comment. This is ridiculous, for a comment,” he allegedly said. “I guess I’m gonna need a lawyer.”
The comment:
Carillo in one post said Harris doesn’t “have a snowballs chance in hell which is exactly where you’re going and soon. I will cut your eyes out of your FUCKING head” and “will make sure you suffer a slow agonizing death."
He said he would “personally” set Harris on fire “if no one else does."
Carillo said Harris is “going to regret ever trying to become president because if that ever happened I will personally pluck out her eyes with a pair of pliers but first I will shoot and kill everyone that gets in my way that is a fucking promise.”
What is it that this person believes she has done that deserves such a horrible death? It’s hard for me to wrap my mind around why someone thinks like this
There’s been a coordinated campaign of dehumanization in the right-wing media for decades. This guy has been indoctrinated to see her as the enemy and to not see her as a person
Even the most evil people I can think of. The most I’d want them to “suffer” is the realization of how terrible they are, before they enter the void. I don’t want them tortured. I don’t want to hurt them. I just want them to not exist.
The “comments” this guy made are psychotic. I don’t mean that in a hyperbolic kind of way. I mean in a “danger to society” kind of way.
I used to hear this kind of shit all the time when I had a trumper as a supervisor. I almost did call the feds once when he and several other people were talking about shooting people for living in a city. One of them had just bought a gun and was in the waiting period. It’s obviously just shit talk, but I should have burned them for being pieces of shit.
She probably wore a tan suit or put mustard on a hot dog at some point in her life.
I wonder if it is some kind of frustration burst release that finds a convenient path of list effort in the far-right propaganda. Like when people get furious alone inside their own car and call everybody names, or gamers threatening your life online after some loss, because there’s no perceived emotional consequences so they don’t need to restrain themselves, same idea but more extreme. I don’t think most of those people would have the heart of doing such horrible things if they were in front of their target and had to face the inevitable human empathy. Sociopaths with zero empathy are probably much rarer than Trump supporters.
How stupid of him. If only had just said “haha sike naw jk lol lol lol” after every sentence.
will shoot and kill everyone that gets in my way that is a fucking promise.”
Real small dick energy
I just want to get to a world where “that is a fucking promise” is actually a promise.
This is like the whole “figuratively” vs. “literally” thing turned up to 11. Are you actually, literally promising to do something? If not, then don’t say “I promise” just to make it understood that you feel something passionately.
”For a comment.”
In this day and age, who hasn’t made incredibly specific ultraviolent threats against an elected official while constantly reassuring others that they are serious/making a promise to enact these threats? Did this upstanding citizen simply forget to cite his first amendment rights to the agents?
“I thought this was America where we have FREEDOM OF SPEECH to just comment on how we’re going to torture, mutilate, and kill presidential candidates, not some communist fascist dictatorship. Except if you talk bad about Trump, you’ll get killed for that.” –Somebody somewhere
Yeah the feds aren’t gonna fuck around with a statement like that.
Especially if you own guns.
They’ve really normalized this shit to the point they don’t understand why it’s wrong…
It’s just like 1/6, there’s a few that are serious and dangerous, and they’re hiding among a large group of fucking idiots and using them as human shields.
Normalizing violence is something fascists always do before the actual violence, they’re getting people desensitized to the idea of it.
they’ve never understood it to BE wrong, much less why. all they know is the fear mongering rhetoric of “they’re coming to take your guns, turn your kids gay, and forcibly terminate your pregnancies” along with the whole “you’re not a real man if you’re not violent” ideal, since the GOP stance can’t win on policy
My dad was recently telling me a story from back in the 90s when he worked in a rural Wisconsin town close to the Illinois border and his co-workers would “joke” about shooting at cars with Illinois license plates. It’s crazy to me just how long the right has had a culture of sharing fantasies about being violent towards the left. It’s no wonder that the vast majority of mass shooters turn out to be far right nut jobs, they’ve been raised in a culture that glorifies violence against people they disagree with.
Turns out violent threats are not protected speech under the first amendment. Who knew?!
Fuck around and find out.
“Good people of the jury, my client is guilty of nothing more than merely forgetting to append ‘in Minecraft,’ to his statement.”
Imagine the level of training to attain such a perspective:
Hoist with his own Google review:
Ouch, the stupid:
approximately 4,359 posts/replies
Give or take
Good job FBI, who knows whether he was serious but there’s a reason there’s an exact statute for this and he actually had weapons - not a good look buddy.
“Based on training and experience” is “because fucking obviously” but will hold up in court.
I feel like after one threat like this you shouldn’t legally be allowed to own weapons.
If found with an illegal weapon after these statements should be recited in front of a judge/jury during trial so they know why the person shouldn’t be allowed to have it. These kinds of threats are not things that normal, rational people make.
It’s weird the personal amount of attention these people give to hating their politicians and wanting to personally harm them. Like, I hate Trump, but really I just want him to go to jail, I’m not going to throw my life away for somebody that detestable.
It’s because it’s All About Them. Their (as fragile as spun-sugar) ego is all-important, and anything that threatens it has to go. And since they wrap their ego up in Being a Republican, and Being a Strong White Man, and all the racist bullshit that goes with that stance, that makes Harris is a physical manifestation of everything they hate. Such ‘challenges’ to their ego cannot be allowed to exist.
Same. I just want trump to face actual consequences for his criminal activity, and for him to never be relevant to politics EVER again.
I honestly wish I could block trump like in black mirror. So whenever his face comes up on my screen it’s automatically blurred. His voice gets a long “bleeeep” for however long he’s talking. That’d make me happy. I’m sick of seeing his ugly mug and hearing his shitty words everywhere.
Imagine the level of training to attain such a perspective
Keep in mind that there’s a lot of dumb people in the world, which is why lawsuits spell out everything, even if some details sound obvious to us.
I’d have to read the source, but what was the original action that prompted the FBI to ask for all these records? Just looking at this GETTR garbo site, it looks like profiles more/less could be public (as in i can look at accounts without an account), but they also say there they looked at his google map account.
This does feel a little 1st amendment breaking to me though. Maybe they considered the 4k comments so spammy it constituted an attempt to manipulate the forum? I can see the argument in the content, but what argument do they even have to consider it noteworthy. I suppose this is why most websites just ban toxic content like me, so they don’t have the feds on their door. Jesus.
Quick 11-page read here if you wanna try to answer your own question so you can check if I’m off base:
- Write law you can’t threaten [vice] president
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- Find threats against VP
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Ask host for records, examine records, ask host (Google) of connected account for records
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Jail
1A is sacrosanct but the moron went too far.
Jokes (one & two) are dandy though :) Two is funnier while one is more extreme.
Imagine living in a country, proclaiming yourself as rabidly patriotic, and not even knowing some of its most basic laws.