88 points

Steam Deck is the best emulation machine out there right now for me.

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I’ve been thinking about getting the new pixel fold or the Samsung z flip fold. When you open them to tablet mode they’re a big square screen. When you clip on a controller it looks like a sick retro gaming handheld because of the screen ratio.

https://youtu.be/giPJ8bjCxN4?si=Mv8-68Dh8_ID9Ct0

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16 points

That’s a $2000 gaming setup! ($1900 for z fold, $100 for gamesir controller.)

I think I’ll just get a Powkiddy RGB30 with a square screen for $80.

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I mean, it’s a phone + tablet first. The gaming is a nice bonus. Plus you really don’t need the fold 6 when the 5 will do just fine.

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You linked a Fold not a Flip. The difference is nearly $1000.

That said the Fold is a solid choice but if you’re only going to play games, save a couple bucks and don’t get a 6. The improvements have been so incremental you might be able to make due with a 4 or 5.

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4 points

Do emulators like lemuroid take up the whole screen on the inside of the fold?

I was debating on a tablet or the pixel fold and I saw a video where it showed that the inside screen was basically two screens and man apps just displayed in the middle with black borders on either side.

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This is similar to what I do. I have an old pixel 3xl and a Sunshine server running on my gaming PC. Moonlight is installed on the Pixel and I stream my games to it from the PC. I have a WireGuard VPN setup for when I am outside the house. It works very well!

Edit: Inside the house, I have a Rasbery Pi 5 with Libreelec installed which has a Moonlight addon as well for when I want to play on my big screen TV.

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2 points

I’m glad clip-on controllers exist now, I remember reading about them when using my Xperia Play a decade ago!

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2 points

I worked for a phone manufacturer that makes foldable for a while. I really got the strong feeling that those foldable displays make them extremely sensitive to any drops or abuse that a traditional chocolate bar would easily survive. And I’ve heard similar feedback from early adopters as well

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2 points

I have a surface duo 2 right now, and had the Motorola razor (rip the iconic chin design they ditched with the new models) before that. Emulating the ds on a flip phone is goated

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2 points

What’s your favorite emulated game on Steam Deck?

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2 points

I’ve found myself playing a fair bit of my 3DS, Wii, and WiiU libraries, and revisiting some PS2 games. I also have been using it to play my PS5 in bed via remote play!

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0 points

Too clunky. Modded Nintendo Switch is more portable and has better battery life

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5 points

Will respectfully disagree. My steam deck can do way more than a Switch!

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58 points

Where is the raspberry pi at 30$??? it is more than that nowadays

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11 points

They’re inflated right now, depending on where you buy them. I got one for MSRP (around 30 bucks) last year at my local electronics store, but I had to give them my info to deter scalping.

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39 points

“Right now” for Pi inflation has been since like 2016. This is just their price now.

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4 points

Well that sucks. I’ve heard the competitors are pretty good now though.

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11 points

An official raspberry pi isn’t worth gettin imo. Especially after their artificial availability issues during the pandemic.

Plenty of alternatives out there, which is what I’d recommend. OrangePi is much more reasonable price wise.

And if you don’t need arm, a used thin client will do the same job, cost a lot less, and have more compatibility.

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3 points

It’s got to the point were for the price of a Pi 5 plus necessary kit, youcan just get a Mini PC with an Intel N100 (maybe the only decent thing Intel has done in the last couple of years) which has a lot more power and expandability though it consumes 15W instead of 7W and would probably be a better choice for running emulators.

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2 points

I’m hoping risc-v can join soon at reasonable speeds.

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8 points

Yeah I’m a huge Raspberry Pi fan but not only is it practically impossible to find a pi at that price, pi’s also can’t reliably emulate games past the 32 bit era

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5 points

https://www.canakit.com/raspberry-pi-3-model-b.html

Here ya go! You don’t need the last edition pi to use retro arch, enjoy.

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4 points

Exactly what I was wondering!!!

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3 points

Yeah I basically got this exact advice and was surprised to realize they cost much more than that anymore.

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33 points

Get a mister.

It IS the original hardware; its an FPGA

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19 points

It perfectly emulates the CPU, but it’s not the same as touching the actual hardware. For better or worse.

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We can’t even say it perfectly emulates the CPU. It may pass all tests we know about, but even 1980s CPUs were complicated enough to have odd niche behavior.

It’s some great hardware, but I think a lot of people have been hoodwinked into thinking FPGA = perfect. Often some of the same people who turn their nose up at software emulation for equally bad reasons.

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8 points

It’s still emulation. Yes, it’s emulating hardware, as close as possible and often indistinguishably close, but it’s still emulation.

For example, my EDGB X7 runs fine on any real Game Boy I have, but can’t switch games on an Analogue Pocket.
Another weird issue that I had was that if I launched my Pokemon Crystal save on Pocket it would, for some reason, permanently change my character from a boy into a girl (without saving the game!). This wasn’t happening on my Game Boys (I restored the save a couple of times to test it).

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1 point

It is not emulation, it is hardware replication. And yes it is not always perfect. As with any replicated or cloned hardware it is just as good as the available information and the skill of the manufacturer.

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5 points

Sure, however you choose to call it, it’s not “original hardware”.

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Not always, the mister would need more elements to do an actual 1:1 for many newer consoles and the cores are often reverse engineered best guesses and not replicating the original asic design.

On the other hand, original hardware goes through revisions and the silicon can change (snes 1chip vs 2chip for example) while still be perfectly compatible so it really depends ho much of a stickler you are.

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By its very nature, an FPGA is not original hardware.

An FPGA is hardware that is designed to be very similar to original hardware, but it does not actually use original hardware components, and because of this it can actually have bugs or inaccuracies that were never present in original hardware.

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3 points

An FPGA is hardware that is designed to be very similar to original hardware,

Well to be even more precise, its designed to be able to replicate most hardware of anything. Not designed for a specific device

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It’s also about as cheap to just buy the original consoles than a kitted out mister.

Although if you figure in AV switches, upscalers and everdrive carts, the price for convenience does swing back into the misters favor

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6 points

The Neo-Geo would like a word

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4 points

What’s the benefit of it versus emulation?

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3 points

It is FPGA based, due to this it can be configured on hardware level to exactly replicate the original hardware of the retro system. This and that it runs directly and not through some emulation layer and modern OS and stuff means that it gets as close as original as it can be, with zero lag and delay.

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2 points

Do you perceive noticable lag when emulating on a modern PC?

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4 points

I barely touch my original hardware at all since I have my MiSTer it is just so good.

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4 points

Mister people are equally obnoxious about this

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3 points

Now this is the real solid advice

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26 points

As someone who owns most of the consoles, has Pvm etc don’t play the scalpers game just emulate. Thankfully the bubble has burst on a lot of markets, and we’re seeing more reasonable prices, but the OG hardware can only last so long. If anything grab a controller for each system you love, even saying that, 8bitdo have really stepped up, and I would say surpassed a lot of the old first party ones.

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It helps that emulators have caught up in the last ten years. When I started collecting consoles there wasn’t a good emulator for the Saturn and even emulating the snes on a mobile device with similar power to a pi was inaccurate at times.

I have less and less reason to want to use original hardware other than nostalgia.

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9 points

8bitdo is amazing

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4 points

The used game market is still insane, I’m seeing $20-30 for even shit-tier, obscure, normally worthless nes games. If you bought the console while it was new it’s still worth keeping, but absolutely just get a flash cart instead of subjecting yourself to the price gouging retro market.

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23 points

30 bucks?! Where?!

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5 points

To be fair the meme just says “Raspberry Pi”. Nothing about the four or five! 😂

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5 points

O wouldn’t dream of buying a pi 5…a pi 3 is like a month’s salary in my country (damn shitty hole) so if you have a 3 selling by 30 dollars I’d try to buy.

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Sorry, I don’t have any rpis. Is it possible for eBay or AliExpress to ship to your country? I see Rpi 3 on these sites for $30 to $36.

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