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I realize that this may be a ridiculous statement but I think this is finally jumping the shark for me…

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I was one of those fanboys since the start but it lost me around black panther 2. This is one hell of a shark being jumped tho.

At least its…somewhat…better then bringing Stark back to life somehow?

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“Somehow…Stark has returned”

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“No, Tony. I am your father.” - Thanos

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you mean jumping the stark

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Leave

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Looks like they jumped the snark there.

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Yeah, I think the new Deadpool definitely was. Trying to avoid spoilers … I did like it but a lot of fan service, cameos, predictable gags …. This was all in previews/reviews … but it doesn’t really stand on its own

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I believe that’s the Deadpool movies weakness: you’ll barely remember the movie/plot; the cameos are the best part, but they’re really not movies you’d want to watch a second time. You may watch it out of boredome, but that’s it. I watched Deadpool last night and was both entertained and amazed by the cameos, but that’s it.

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I’m not deeply familiar with the lore/canon. Is there any instance in the comics that Tony Stark becomes Dr. Doom? If not, is this Marvel getting desperate with their waning popularity by trying to bring back RDJ just to straight up play a different character? That’s a new low.

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Dr. Doom has become Iron Man, so there’s that. In this case it might just be same actor two roles. Remember that Doom wears that mask because his face is all fucked up; it’s likely that they could just have RDJ play the role without any Iron Man connections at all.

Update: also there’s this: https://youtu.be/5Jv-HopDBV4?si=052HgQB2WQJhtvRT

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I know little about Marvel, but I guess a Stark from the multiverse may have become Doom instead of Ironman in his timeline.

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Doesn’t seem to me like it would make sense to hire RDJ and then hide him behind a mask for the entire movie.

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I’d like to invite you to watch V for vendetta. A good actor can do magic even behind a mask!

Edit: I’m not sure how Downey Jr would perform, just want to point out that a mask alone is not a blocker for a great performance.

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I’m not well versed with lore but “What If: Iron Man: Demon in an Armor” has Tony and Victor swap bodies. It happens when they are younger so they have different paths and that story isn’t the one that is going to be told here, but… technically yes.

But also keep in mind it’s fine for the MCU to do things a little different. In Multiverse of Madness we was the “Illuminati” in a way similar to existing material, but still wholly unique. Additionally we got characters like Mordo who get new arcs and growth that differs from any existing media

While I do expect this to be a little desperate on Marvels part, they’re also bringing back the Russo brothers, I think it’s also a way to bring hype back to Marvel and the idea of the multiverse. The future is mutants and Secret Wars will be a great way to get that going so I think we’re going to speedrun it and a cheesy strat like bringing back RDJ is a way to do that.

In terms of story I don’t think they’re going to ignore that he played Tony Stark/Iron Man. If we’re going to play with the Multiverse (and we are) then a variant of Tony is fair game.

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Dr. Doom has a mask that he never removes so maybe that’s how this will work?

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He’s totally going to remove the mask.

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I don’t think you cast someone like Robert Downey Jr unless you’re planning on having them out of mask at some point. Even just as a flashback/backstory kind of thing.

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If I hadn’t looked I wouldn’t have known he was in Oppenheimer, you can do miracles with makeup… Also Dr Doom’s face is fucked

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Are you being serious?

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v for vendetta

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M for Mandalorian

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As someone who is a bit out of the loop on Marvel since endgame, who are the current Avengers even?

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The Avengers remain disbanded.

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Young Avengers have started to team up at least.

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That’s part of their problem. How do you keep the Avengers going with a different group, or have a new group that’s totally not the Avengers? I’m definitely not a fan of all the multiverse stuff - that’s where I stopped reading the comics and it’s pretty much there for the movies

That was the potential with Guardians of the Galaxy - very different from Avengers, with very different situations. They could have been something, but maybe they’ve had their run.

I would watch another Eternals movie, but I hope they’d keep it independent.

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