145 points

One of them is a tool, another one is driven by a tool.

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12 points

Erin O’Toole nods in agreement

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5 points

is driven by a fool.

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122 points

The worst part with all these big trucks is the bed is significantly higher requiring much more effort to actually put anything in.

You’re not only looking like a dumbass you actually are one.

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20 points

Honestly this. I had one of these that replaced my old Dodge van at work, and I hated it because all my equipment was much more of a pain in the ass to get in and out.

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11 points

That’s something i often wonder–how do they manage to load stuff in/out? I’ll always remember a woodshop class i took and someone asked me to help lift a chicken coop they built into their truck. It was heavy af to begin with but the extra height to put it into his big/tall truck made it a much more difficult task. It’s just stupid, really–no benefit i can see and further drawbacks seem inevitable ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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5 points

Forklift on one end, idiocy on another

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-10 points

Maybe they are more manly than you give them credit for?

If it’s hard for you to throw something in the bed of a truck you should hit the gym.

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11 points

Really big and heavy item enters the chat

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@SqueakyBeaver @ji17br Funny how such items enter chats a lot more frequently than they enter the bed of the typical suburban driver’s pickup truck.

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80 points

The comparison is kinda unfair. The big truck has a wider bed, bigger tires and more power. It also seats more people. So it is able to get more load through more difficult terrain. However we can be quite sure it won’t be used in that way.

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69 points

I’ve never seen one with wear and tear and/or dirt that would indicate difficult terrain. Those only leave the city in advertisements.

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19 points

There’s a few in the country around here. The ones with dirt on them are almost exclusively the Toyota Hilux, though

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2 points

up to but not including 7th gen hilux is more in line with what I would consider a reasonable truck design. I’d give them a pass before 2004 or so. The bulbous round ones, if people actually use them off the streets then it probably won’t offend me to see them on the road but personally I’d just have a small car for day to day and only use the truck for what I bought it for, storage insurance when I don’t need it. I’m still too scared of having my bike stolen to commit to no car it turns out. Some places are just too sketchy.

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7 points

Are you around forestry, oil drilling, or similar sites? Obv most are fleet stock simple (with decent tires), but the 4 door, white truck with a V8 is ubiquitous when you need 4 grouchy dudes to effectively live out of it for a whole day, plus all their equipment and food. It’s hilarious how much shit these trucks hold and get anywhere with a 2 track

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16 points

That truck isn’t this truck though. That truck is dirty, dinged and always in use. The part of this truck that gets used the most is the entertainment system.

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6 points

The tonneau cover is usually there because A) they do mostly highway mikes and want the improved mileage resulting from reduced drag, and B) they rarely use the bed, as those covers are a PITA unless you only remove it once in a great while.

I live in Central America where its mostly little trucks owned by workers, and they often drive on mud roads and hard terrain. The only people with trucks like the black one in the picture are US expats with …particular political leanings.

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2 points

Nearly every tonneau cover folds or rolls up. Outright removal is a pain, but using the bed isn’t.

The factory standard cover rolls up in about 30 seconds.

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2 points

that only happens when actual working people buy it used, maybe a decade down the line, to do actual work.

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1 point

A lot of people wash them shortly after going off road to avoid rust and corrosion.

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2 points

unless the owner does a full handwash, clay, compound, and wax every time, there is no way the trucks I’m seeing in my region are washed off road vehicles.

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30 points

it won’t be used in that way.

However, there is (or was) an additional product for faking off-road activity: Spray-on mud for giving a justification to need such a car.

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2 points

Lol that almost done like a chindogu ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chindōgu )

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1 point

In a way I almost prefer that to the blatant posers I see driving around with huge lifts and offroad tires looking spotless in our muddy season out here. I was at the combo laundromat/carwash the other day watching one of them wash an already clean truck while I was thinking about the massive mud puddle I’d be driving through to get home.

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My brother in law has a truck like the one on the right. That backseat area is huge. You could stop and have a picnic back there during a road trip.

I can’t imagine owing it. It looks dumb to me and it’s far too big for normal use. But he’s a cross country hauler, so it’s not a big truck to him.

And they have three kids, so I doubt he gives af about pp showmanship.

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12 points

Yeah.

Sure, most people with a big truck don’t need one.

That said, the capabilities of the bigger truck far exceed that of the Suzuki.

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8 points

The majority of trucks i see are driven by a guy in a perfectly clean dress shirt, carries a fancy bag for papers and they work an office job. Their justification is often something along a couple potholes on their rural road just outside of town (so they dont have to pay as much property taxes to fit potholes). They moved a fridge once for their kid 5 years ago so that paid for the truck in their mind.

The majority of these things are ego boosts. Hence why they tailgate, rollcoal, have loud exhausts and can be covered in sexist/racist/religious stickers. Its all about look at me for most of these trucks.

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1 point

Amazing.

I’m not defending any of these people.

My point is, the two vehicles pictured have dramatically different capabilities.

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1 point

I have yet to see a big truck carrying more than a ton of things, and I’m near home depot often. These trucks are capable of 800lb which should be fine for most people. I’d love a vehicle where if I found something I liked I could pick it up while still being a viable economical daily driver.

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3 points

Do you live in an urban area?

I did say most people don’t need one.

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-6 points

How did society even function without these big ass trucks. They are so capable and essenti.

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63 points

The one on the left is used by people who need to carry things. The one of the right is used by losers.

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20 points

Left one carries stuff, right one carries fragile egoes

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What about people who need extra room for a child’s car seat (they’re huge nowadays) and also need to carry stuff the way a truck does?

Edit: I live out in the country and I’m in need of a pickup for carrying loads of stuff. Putting it in the back of my Ford Edge is highly inconvenient as it doesn’t fit in one load and messed up the interior (the sides of the trunk are scratched to hell now.

And my point was simply that there are entirely legitimate uses for a pickup truck. 98% of people don’t have a legitimate use case, but that didn’t mean no one does.

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34 points

What are you carrying around all day with your child that doesn’t fit in a minivan?

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23 points

Or just a regular car

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1 point

I live out in the country. We don’t get garbage pickup. The garbage dump is very close to my child’s daycare. It’s 20 minutes away. It’s open from 8am to 4:30pm, Monday to Friday. I either bring the garbage with me when I go to daycare, or I have to schedule time off from work to take out garbage.

I have a Ford Edge, so no, a minivan wouldn’t work. To be clear, it’s not impossible. But a truck would be 10x more convenient.

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You live out in the country, you clearly didn’t grow up in the country.

I grew up in the country, we had a truck with a full sized bed and a bench. You put the baby seat in the middle of the bench, strap it down like you do in the car and a lap belt and you pick up your chicken feed with your kid in the truck. Ain’t rocket science here and you don’t need to have a crew cab and a worthless short bed to do things out there.

Shit dude, if you’re worried about scratches to your vehicle, maybe you should move back to the suburbs.

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But I don’t have a truck.

if you’re worried about scratches to your vehicle,

I said “mess up the interior” with “leaky garage bags”. But yes, the inside is scuffed also.

maybe you should move back to the suburbs.

Thanks for gatekeeping where I live, you clearly know everything about me.

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-3 points

This still doesn’t matter make sense. Lots of people have multiple kids and/or a spouse. Manufacturing more vehicles just to please your ego is not the economical or environmentally friendly thing to do.

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3 points

What is “carrying stuff the way a truck does”? No offense, I really do not understand

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5 points

Well, I can’t shove drywall, leaking smelly garbage, construction scrap, etc into a Ford Edge without seriously messing up the inside. So that kind of way.

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-2 points

How’d they get someone pregnant with that medically diagnosed micropenis?

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8 points

Wow you’re soooo cool. I bet everyone is always really happy when you talk

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4 points

Lol. This isn’t an insult to me the way you want it to be.

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52 points

A tax on vehicle axle weight proportional to the damage done to roads (which goes up exponentially with weight).

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19 points

Vehicle fee based on some combination of size, weight, and miles driven would be the fairest.

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Miles driven is just taken care of in fuel taxes. Sales tax on size, yearly tax based on weightwould be perfect I think.

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3 points

Yes, something that attempts to assess cost proportional to impact

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3 points

EVs break this.

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13 points

Happens many places in Europe already.

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