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Glad this comments section is filled with thoughtful posts instead of just mindless raging.

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What are your thoughts on the subject?

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The evidence is mounting that hybrid seems to be the most productive, with full WFH being less productive than full in office.

And this lines up with my experience, having been full wfh for around 10 years, and now in a hybrid setting.

I get that commuting sucks and wfh is way better for workers, but if we want to work out what’s best for both employees and business, we have to actually be reasonable, rather than just have some kind of mindless knee-jerk reaction that these companies are trying to be productive.

I think the future of work is hybrid, with lots of flexibility for workers to take the time they need for typical shit, like going to the doctor, without it counting as vacation.

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Thank you for your comments. I feel the same. And I can especially understand that you would tie promotions to at least hybrid. If you’re responsible for other people, need to discuss, brainstorm and instruct, it’s just a necessity to show up in person every now and them.

And c’mon… Being obliged to work hybrid for a promotion… It’s not like that’s a draconian measure at all.

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Hybrid sucks. It’s like the worst of both worlds.

If you are going to have meeting with remote and in office, never have anyone in a meeting room.

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As a hybrid worker myself, I honestly enjoy it. I’ve got an open office with a couple of new hires that I’m mentoring. I can bother people at their desks, rather than fighting to schedule them over Teams for a five minute talk. Lunch spots downtown are genuinely good and I can stretch my legs a bit walking around.

Then I’ve got W/F to myself at home, so I can roll out of bed and dive in and eat out of my fridge.

The worst part about my job, atm, is that all our DBAs are these overseas contractors who are constantly coming and going and don’t know our systems past whatever documentation got telephone-gamed to them over three prior managers. Would love for a little less work from a trans-Pacific timezone home, tbh.

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Seems like your documentation should be out in the open not sent over to them. You should all be looking at the same thing.

Bothering people at thier desk is exactly what I do not want. Why not put your question into teams or what ever you use, and it will get answered when they have time?

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Seems like your documentation should be out in the open not sent over to them.

Take that up with my utterly dysfunctional security-through-obscurity obsessed managers.

Bothering people at thier desk is exactly what I do not want. Why not put your question into teams or what ever you use, and it will get answered when they have time?

Because Teams is constantly ringing, as everyone is on a dozen different groups with back-and-forth that they aren’t really a part of. So we’ve stopped paying attention to Teams messages in real time.

Also, sometimes its easier to carry a laptop over to someone and show them a thing with a simple question than to Teams in and share screen when they’ve got a dozen things up on their own monitors.

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Dell about to find out what a de-moralized and quiet-quitting workforce is like.

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People talk about quiet quitting a lot so I looked it up. That just sounds like doing your job without trying to get ahead.

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More like intentionally dragging your team down and making your teammates pick up your slack until management has gone through all the written warning steps required to fire your ass.

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Still their loss, firing you means paying out that severance they tried to dodge by inviting the quiet quitting in the first place

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Quiet Quitting

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