77 points

reminder that the world did not enjoy it the last time Europeans were super powerful

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Yeah, they all hated each other and their internal beer hall brawl spilled out over the borders. It wasn’t that Europe was any kind of united force. Maybe it’s time. We’re fucked in the US, now.

Though I gotta admit it’s ironic AF that the Allies set up Germany with a far better constitution/Grundgesezt and government framework than our own Constitution which ended up essentially frozen because politics have gotten so bad that opening it up would have probably destroyed whatever good remained in it thanks to talibangelicals and corporate money.

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5 points

I think they were talking about colonialism, not WW2

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2 points

Ah, yeah that was a bad time for the rest of the world too.

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19 points

Europe is the biggest provider of independence days !

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1 point

Well, not the EU after the UK left. Spain and France tried but they were up against WASPs and that’s simply not a fair contest of evil.

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6 points

Not even most Europeans.

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5 points

I don’t think the world enjoys anyone being powerful

I’d rather see other powers collapse than Europe join this stupid game

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7 points

Eh, power vacuums don’t last. You’re basically just asking for a Somalia situation where there’s n small powers continuously at war.

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as if there aren’t any other options

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4 points

But Europeans loved it

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0 points

Hi Americans!

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Europe is not the Germans.

This time you’ll get the Vikings, the Romans, the Conquistadors, the Spartans and the people who ruled the world by the cunning use of flags all teamed together.

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10 points

The British imperialists genocided more people throughout their history than the Germans. Just that the Brits took their time with it. The French, Spanish, Portuguese, Belgians, Dutch and Italians also have many million skeletons in their closet and the French massacred millions of people trying to gain independence after World War 2.

If you go to any place in the world outside of Europe there is a good chance that Europeans committed a massacre there to steal land and resources at some point in the past few hundred years.

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But not now, now for the most part they’re all democratic countries.

You hang on to the past so hard and you get Gaza, India Pakistan war, the Middle East etc.

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Europe is not the Germans.

The English ran laps around the Germans in terms of human attrocity for centuries.

The French weren’t far behind.

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4 points

Hey, don’t forget Belgium. They didn’t have much, but it’s quality over quantity!

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57 points

Power corrupts. No single country should be a global superpower

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90 points

That’s fine, Europe is several countries.

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14 points

So was the US. Technically the use of the word “state” implies it still is. What is the line between a bunch of states working together and them no longer being a bunch of separate countries?

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10 points

It’s a thin line indeed. Aren’t the countries in the UK closer to being actual countries than the US states?

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You cannot compare the US’ setup to Europe’s. One is a nation that is still incredibly young and was sliced up like a cake for several territories that still are relatively homogenous in culture.

The other is a continent consisting of countries with very diverse cultures and thousands of years of history, who made a union to collaborate on certain political issues.

The two are not even close to being the same. Not even close.

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14 points

On the contrary, periods of imperial hegemony have been some of the more stable and peaceful episodes of human history. One of them is ending right now.

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5 points

Yeah. People like to complain about American warmongering, but the period between World Wars I and II was orders of magnitude more deadly.

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4 points

The stability isn’t much consolation to the slaves who die under empires

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That’s fair. But history is an uninterrupted succession of empires. Good ones, bad ones, middling ones. It’s the human condition. The USA was an empire founded by enlightenment libertarians, so I’d say there’s a fair chance we’re going to look back on it fondly. Similarly, the EU, if ever it could pull itself together, has the potential to be as good an empire as we’ll ever get. IMO.

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3 points

The only way to enforce that, is to be a global superpower

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47 points

EU already absorbed Switzerland in this pic despite them not wanting it, so there’s that.

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29 points

Undid Brexit too already

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7 points

No Iceland either 😔

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4 points

Or Canada.

What? That hasn’t happened yet? Oh, sorry. That’s the problem with being from the, er, can’t say. Temporal prime directive and all that.

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22 points

Switzerland is 100% dependent on the EU.

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That’s not true.

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13 points

They are completely landlocked by the EU and their Airspace.

Also most of their imports/exports go there.

They don’t even farm enough to sustain themselves. So yes, obviously it’s true

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I mean they mostly are, they’re approx. 50% dependent for agriculture, so if the EU were to block all borders and halt all exports to them the Swiss would become significantly skinnier than they were before.

No shame in that by the way, the Swiss also provide the EU with lots of stuff and services that are valuable.

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38 points

The top US export is oil.

If you want to do something, wean yourself off oil. Big push for solar, wind, and anything else that doesn’t rely on digging up bits of dinosaurs.

Electric vehicles, public transport, bikes, walking.

And as an added bonus, the world gets a little cleaner. Might be important, you know.

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> In 2023, renewable energy represented 24.5% of energy consumed in the EU, up from 23.0% in 2022.

They’re working on it a lot faster than (most of) the rest of the world!

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2 points

In 2022, renewable energy sources contributed 31% of the electricity used in Texas. Fucking Texas.

Get those numbers up. Those are rookie numbers.

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> We didn’t do it for the cleanliness. We didn’t do it for climate change. We did it because it makes us a lot of money for the landowners and saves us a lot of money for the consumers.

The insane thing is that renewables has been increasingly more cost efficient and more ROI than fossils for a long time, especially in places like Texas. Wind and sun for days. Investments in tech and production pay off big time, and obviously keep paying off long-term.

It is just oil subsidies and profiteering holding almost all of society back for decades. But things can change.

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Don’t worry Texas is going to fix that. They’re getting ready to pass a bunch of laws that limit renewable energy usage in Texas.

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This is what I always have to bring up when people go “bUt cHInA!”. So what? Energy independence is valuable and should be pushed for.

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The almighty Nordic cock and balls

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5 points

Norway should really check a doctor

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2 points

Dang! Cannot unsee anymore

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3 points

I can’t unsee Putin screaming at Poland at the balcans, seeing both goes together quite nicely

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