Summary
RFK Jr. is using private medical records to create a registry of people with autism in the United States.
The National Institutes of Health is helping to collect private medical records from government and commercial databases, including “prescription records from pharmacies, lab testing, and genomics records from the Department of Veterans Affairs and Indian Health Service, private insurance claims, and data from smartwatches and fitness trackers.”
Kennedy, a longtime critic of vaccination, has made the study of autism one of HHS’s primary goals. He has called autism “preventable” and claimed “he can find a cure for the condition by September.”
Holy shit, do they want to speedrun fascism?
Yes. They laid it out with Project 2025 and a staggering amount of people voted for it.
Pretty sure the staggering amount of people who voted for Trump have never heard of P2025 before the election, as FoxNews pretty much never spoke about it.
Until after the election; https://www.foxnews.com/politics/heritage-president-project-2025-liberals-doge-takes-ax-bureaucracy
Yes. There are a lot of ignorant people but I feel they choose to be ignorant.
I don’t buy that. I live on the other side of the planet and I know what project 2025 is and its key action points. It’s not just foreign media that were reporting on it. I also watch some US late night shows, especially when a major event like an election is about to happen. Most late night shows also discussed project 2025 at length.
You’re already living under fascism at this point. You just haven’t woken up yet, because they didn’t get to your door. Yet. The sooner you wake up the better.
A couple things I would like to highlight for the unfamiliar, and I’ll preface this by saying that I am autistic myself.
First, autism is not something for which there are any clear medical indicators, no blood tests or brain scans or anything of the sort are involved in diagnosis. It’s entirely subjective and observational, something that states entrust people who are ostensibly professionals to determine.
I point this out because I want people to understand that there is absolutely nothing stopping the present administration from hiring people (or using AI) to simply diagnose undesirables with autism through whatever criteria they decide to deem fit.
This might sound absurd, but we’re seeing people with nothing but tattoos being transformed into “criminals”, “gang members”, and “terrorists” by similar logic.
Second, Asperger was a Nazi, and the child euthanasia program was one of the main projects which experimented with the tools and machinery of mass murder that would later be used in extermination camps. Zyklon B was tested on autistic children and other “diseased offspring” long before it was ever used in the gas chambers.
How long do you think it will take before they are using AI to comb through the social media and medical records of teens looking for any indications of anything they don’t like, and flagging them as potentially autistic? September has been RFK’s set date since he first started talking about it, and people have been puzzling about that from the beginning. September is the start of the school year.
Lists are not neutral; they are tools of social hierarchy and ideological enforcement.
Creating a national database of autistic people could grow from “support services” to stigmatizing surveillance or work farms—especially if the one proposing it has a history of pseudoscientific views or conspiracy ideation, as RFK Jr. does.
Work farms? No no no— these are wellness farms! Completely different! The labor will be very therapeutic! Plus, if we determine you’re taking medication for any co-occurring disorders, like ADHD or depression we’ll get you clean of that crippling addiction pronto.
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comb through the social media and medical records of teens looking for any indications of anything they don’t like, and flagging them as potentially autistic?
anything woke must be autism
woke mind virus etc
Home-growns are next. The home-growns. You gotta build about five more places
it literally doesn’t matter if this is the correct interpretation… the fact that it’s possible is the problem. it should be completely impossible
Second, Asperger was a Nazi, and the child euthanasia program was one of the main projects which experimented with the tools and machinery of mass murder that would later be used in extermination camps.
Let’s not demonize him, the whole point he separated the “Asperger syndrome” from the more notable parts of the spectrum is to prevent some of those children from being killed.
“Let’s not demonize the Nazi, didn’t you know he undertook the arduous and benevolent task of creating a special category just for those of you that were exploitable for your labour? Sure he had a bunch of you exterminated but he sterilized and saved some for work and that should count for something.”
Utterly repugnant worldview. If at any point you find yourself coming up with reasons to defend a Nazi, and you don’t take a moment to look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself what the fuck you’re doing, you’re failing as a human.
Someone who actively participated in the mass murder of children might have redeeming qualities (and I’d argue the one you think you’re highlighting isn’t one at all), but none of them will ever outweigh the fact that they are monstrously inhuman.
Do you have any idea how profoundly his work has negatively impacted every autistic person since? We’re still trying to excise all the fucked up useless gendered concepts his perspective injected into the diagnostics. The notions that we lack empathy, have some kind of extreme “male intellect” and/or psychopathy, that the way we’re born is some kind of defect in humanity that must be studied and purged, that’s his legacy.
He was one of the first to try to identify and categorize us, not out of altruism, but because he saw us as a diseased branch of humanity that was situationally useful but ultimately unworthy of life. If that’s not worthy of demonization then I don’t know what is.
You might want to read something by his contemporaries on autism, those who were not Nazis so that association can’t be immediately used against them. Also read how people diagnosed autistic were treated in, for example, USA.
didn’t you know he undertook the arduous and benevolent task of creating a special category just for those of you that were exploitable for your labour?
Compared to sending all of a bunch to a gas chamber sending only part is morally preferable. Obviously. Mentally impaired people were by default intended for extermination in Nazi Germany. The “Asperger’s syndrome” diagnosis allowed some of autistic people to be considered curious, borderline genius, pathway to making a new supersoldier/superscientist or anything like that not involving euthanasia.
If at any point you find yourself coming up with reasons to defend a Nazi,
I don’t care for emotional arguments containing no logical structure. Trying to feed that to your counterparts instead of something meaningful is the most morally repugnant position on any subject. The more morally loaded the subject is, the more repugnant it is to try this.
Do you have any idea how profoundly his work has negatively impacted every autistic person since?
His work should be considered in the context of others’ work of the same time.
The notions that we lack empathy,
There are three things called empathy, of which autistic people have problems with one, and psychopaths with another. This is correct.
have some kind of extreme “male intellect”
Maybe you’d like it back in your cell, your highness? Oops, it’s not exactly a cell, it’s a gas chamber.
and/or psychopathy
It’s not a weird concept, it’s the obsolete use of the term. In the 40s psychopathy meant basically every disorder with intelligence not necessarily lower than average.
He was one of the first to try to identify and categorize us, not out of altruism, but because he saw us as a diseased branch of humanity that was situationally useful but ultimately unworthy of life. If that’s not worthy of demonization then I don’t know what is.
As I said, sending all of the bunch to the gas chamber instead of some.
It’s Eugenics, this is them warming you up to forced sterilisation. This is Timesplitters shit, let’s just kill the Billionaires. Come on.
Well technically they’re warming people up for full blown death-camps.
It starts with tracking, then sterilization, then “work camps”, and then suddenly there are hundreds of thousands stuffed into cargo trains on the way to the furnaces. With tons of them telling themselves they should have done something when they first came for…
That’s already here, that’s el Salavadore. Specifically I think that’s where the human experimentation with neuralink and putting smart tech into your body is really going to get grotesque.
The first true AMERICAN concentration camp is being constructed as we speak. Soon we won’t need Cecot.
Trump has signed an executive order to build a 30,000 bed detention facility in Guantanamo Bay, and a $249 million contract has already been awarded. It is due to be complete in 2030, but it will open in stages.
For context, the average maximum security prison in America is about 800-1200 people. The largest, in Angola, LA, is about 8300. That means this new detention facility will be almost 4 times larger than our current largest prison, which is already several times larger than average.
Its also going to be on a foreign island, surrounded by a (supposedly) hostile foreign nation, far from the prying eyes of the media or the courts.
We’ve seen Cecot, with its giant cells packed with 80 prisoners. We’ve also seen their method of frog-marching their prisoners.
Compare that with Russia’s infamous Black Dolphin Prison where prisoners live this way for the rest of their lives:
they are forced to stand and forbidden from resting or sitting on their bunks from the time they awake until bedtime (roughly 16 hours).
They are also moved about in a similar way as Cecot:
Black Dolphin prison officers have a unique form of escorting inmates: prisoners are kept bent over at the waist while a guard holds his handcuffed hands behind his back, higher than his hips. This escort control tactic allows for maximum control while depriving him of a view of his immediate surroundings (preventing him from escaping and/or attacking prison staff)
The MAGA Nazis are very familiar both of these notorious prisons, and it is likely they will be the model for the the new Guantanamo Bay facility.
So who do they intend on putting in there? He is making it crystal clear that whoever is destined for Camp Gitmo will NOT be receiving trials, or anything resembling Due Process.
Our first AMERICAN concentration camp is being constructed as we speak, Google it.
Just a reminder that forced sterilization is still legal in the US, affirmed by the Supreme Court in Buck v. Bell: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_v._Bell
Eugenics seems opposite from RFK Jr’s ideas.
I don’t think so. I think he’s really that delusional. Let’s hope his medical experiments won’t be worse than some hallucinogenic mushrooms.
Yes it is, that’s why the reduction in social security supports, that’s why the measles outbreak. This administration is puppets, acting out word for word, Curtis Yarvin’s butterfly revolution. That is why Trump is offering awards to women with more than 5 children, that is they focussed on reducing the cost of IVF. That is why musk never shuts the fuck up about the great replacement theory. It is blindingly obvious. This whole far right movement is funded by Big Tech, America First, Ireland First, Britain First, Francais Premier. They all appeared immediately after covid, they all have money come from The Heritage Foundation. This is the most obviousl thing, they’re not even hiding it. It’s because the economy is going to collapse within 2 generations because Meta, Google, Amazon, Apple and all of them collect obscene amounts of wealth across every denomination of currency in the world, they pay no tax and this drives inflation by forcing ever country’s central to print more money. We are about to enter indian level poverty in the West, along with the climate disaster, caused by the people who do not want to acknowledge it and have used the culture war, created by Big Tech in order to ignore. How do people not understand this?
Yarvin actually thinks they should be moving faster and more aggressively than they are, and he fears they might actually fail, and what it personally means for him if they do. Here’s the piece on it. He’s actually worried that his butterfly revolution may be unraveling under the weight of its own stupidity.
It’s because the economy is going to collapse within 2 generations because Meta, Google, Amazon, Apple and all of them collect obscene amounts of wealth across every denomination of currency in the world, they pay no tax and this drives inflation by forcing ever country’s central to print more money.
Not commenting the rest of your statements, this is not how economies work.
We are about to enter indian level poverty in the West, along with the climate disaster
No, you are not. You are about to show everyone else what real poverty is, though, reminding them of pre-XIX century life.
I might agree there is a common interest of power in all this, but that’s obvious anyway, evolution, game theory and all.
He did run on finding the increased cause of autism in the youth. He said it was likely environmental toxins from corporations.
So if hes right and hes not looking to murder people then we get statistics on where its occuring, and he would track it down like we did lead and things like that.
Which there doesnt seem to be a counter-point to what hes doing, heres MSNBC who obviously hates Trump, and as she says theres not been clear answers yet. Which maybe with the data he is gathering there will be some insights:
Ah yes, this is clearly a person who is gathering information purely for science and the public good
I dont like the guy, but clearly it is an issue according to this MSN interview. So if he can figure it out I’d like that he did, so that the corporation causing it is held to account. Or what, do we just wait until a democrat is the one to do the same thing?
RFK is also talking about the obesity epidemic, specifically tying it to our food quality that many large donors really dont want to hear. I think some of these things seem sane, and I’m glad the republicans are starting to appreciate these ideologies.
Yes, well, there are good statistics and studies on autism and it’s mostly genetic. A bug of some of our far ancestors being related enough to have kids, but not enough to avoid weird bugs. Like - some of the neanderthals were not eaten. And parts of their genes were kinda compatible to those of bog standard homo sapiens sapiens, but not entirely. Which mostly doesn’t show in humans, and when it does, it’s autism. Or green eyes. Or something like that. Point being - really nothing to do with environment.
BTW, RFK Jr really with his manner of speech seems like a high-functioning autistic person, give or take. I wonder if he knows that you don’t have to hide in a room all day and smell and have problems talking at all to be that. I also wonder if he knows that his survival\camping interests too match that a lot.
He’s a cunt with half a brain, he’s the new Mengele. His delusions have already killed people, I don’t believe in his supposed good intentions.
I believe it’s more likely that they (this administration, obviously) would change the meaning of the term “autistic” to mean any unwanted person. Basically, the Autist would become the new Jew under Trump’s regime.
Autism has a genetic origin. Even with today’s gene therapy techniques, it would not be possible to alter the already formed brains of adults so that they would not be autistic.
The simplest way to eliminate autism in the population would be to identify all autistic individuals and sterilize them or to genetically modify the zygotes or embryos of autistic individuals, but these, especially the first, have serious ethical implications and completely violate individual freedom. All this not to mention that we would be destroying part of the diversity of Humanity’s genotype, which could even have long term consequences that are difficult to predict.
Well that’s not great. This is the kind of shit why I haven’t wanted to get diagnosed. Granted I’m already in it deep for being trans and that resulting million mile paper trail…
Behind the Bastards has a good couple episodes about what happens when people say they can cure autism (spoilers: many children die horribly)
Their RFK episodes are also highly relevant at the moment.
(spoilers: even more dead children)
The RFK Jr episodes also led me to believe that RFK Jr is probably not as neurotypical as he probably wants to think.
Which is not surprising considering the amount of hatred and seething rage that some unrecognized neurodivergent people (primarily low support needs) have for anyone exhibiting neurodivergent traits.
After years of social rejection (especially by family) and being denied support, many neurodivergent people learn to mask their traits at all costs. So when they see others openly express their traits or receive accommodations, it can feel deeply triggering, even infuriating. This resentment often fuels a cycle of shame and suppression that repeats across generations in ND families
Most of the late-diagnosed autistics/ADHDers in my circle have experienced abuse from undiagnosed autistic/ADHD parents. These parents, having been forced to mask their traits due to less obvious support needs, often harshly suppress the same traits in their children to avoid stigma.
Some people who’ve struggled want to ease the path for others; others believe everyone should struggle as they did. The latter are the ones who go on to try to abuse their kids (and sometimes a whole country) out of being neurodivergent.
This is fucking terrifying. How is this not a HIPAA violation?
Edit: Fixed spelling. What can we do to protect ourselves and loved ones?!
