I stand corrected, not based.

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These stickers are just hilariously stupid if you have the money to buy a Tesla, you have the money to sell it for a better naziless vehicle.

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Unless its a 2008 tesla roadster it’s not “pre-madness” and even then it’s very debatable.

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“Pre my awareness of world politics”

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When is ignorance an acceptable excuse?

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Honestly it should be, as long as you correct yourself once you know better. You can’t blame folks for stuff they honestly don’t know.

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When its niche knowledge that doesnt get a lot of media attention. So not in this case.

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I think ignorance should excuse people in most cases. Being uneducated about something does not mean they have bad intentions or intend to hurt someone.

Everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt.

Of course there are cases where ignorance is unlikely, but in most cases we should accept that ignorance is a part of human nature and society.

People need education, time and to be taught stuff. I grew up without a lot of parental supervision and guidance. This left me ignorant and lacking a lot of skills.

I had to learn a lot as an adult and in most cases by myself. Society has a vast variety of human experiences and upbringing. Schools are lacking and not covering enough about politics, economy, history and society.

I believe we should assume ignorance and good intentions, even from people we assume are far gone into the wrong side of politics.

One of my core beliefs is that people can change, my life experience supports this.

I had a friend who voted for a conservative party in my country, that has now changed completly to the opposite side. I like to think I was a part of helping that transition, by being open, honest and non-judgemental. Also admitting your own mistakes or when you change your own opinion fosters a climate in which change is not damaging the reputational standing of a friend.

That being said, a person buying the cybertruck now, is not someone I would give the benefit of the doubt.

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My favorite I’ve ever seen:

“I bought this before Elon went crazy.”

on a Camry

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He’s been toxic for a long time though, a long long time. I do remember the first kink in his public armour was when those people were stuck in a cave and he called one of the rescuers a pedophile for not taking his advice

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To be fair, Tesla began production of their first cars in 2008. The pedo cave thing was 2018.

Retrospectively, there were many signs but in 2015, I don’t think the general public had their attention directed to Elon’s bs.

I understand that Tesla feels like a young company and that everything that Elon did happened super recently. But it has been 17 years. E.g. Elon has talked about self-driving cars in 2015, promising them for 2018. Elon has failed to keep his promise of self-driving for 7 years now.

I am not arguing that Elon wasn’t a weird fascist with a toddler RP kink in 2008. Or that we couldn’t have known what kind of man he is. But rather that I don’t think the general public knew and understood in the early years of Tesla.

That being said, this seems to be a model 3 which got released in 2017… So I think that person was probably aware of the pedo cave thing at least.

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Now that you mention it…

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You are correct, but the average person is not paying attention to that kind of stuff.

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37 points

The Muskrat was always Mad!

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Ah, nevermind then…

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Yeah, but there was a time where he would be referenced in Star Trek or host SNL.

Imagine referencing him now as someone that helped mankind to progress or thinking “oh, let’s get Elon to host the show next time, should be fun”.

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Yeah, but it took people a while to realize. He had good PR at first, but he managed to fuck that up with the submarine thing and it’s been downhill from there.

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