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as they should. i dont like american culture, where some people seem to think it is ok to take an item of the menu and alter pretty much everything about it.

btw: if you want to be treated like a king in france… look up history

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Making adjustments to dishes for the customers the restaurant serves is not unique to american culture.

Furthermore I find it important to enable this. For example due to health reasons as in lactose intolerance, which is common in humans as about two thirds of humanity is lactose intolerant.

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exactly because of allergies it is important to stick to the menu. if someone has a real allergy, not ‘i fart a little more’, they know exactly what they can and cannot eat. so they will order what they know is safe and the restaurant knows how to prepare the stuff on the menu.

i dont know how bad you can mess someone up with lactose, but milk has a large possibility of cross contamination. i know you can kill someone with celiac disease from just a little cross contamination. so lets just not risk it.

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I mean if it’s for a meal I get you but being mad about different type of milk for coffee is crazy

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Do they even have it in the shop? Should a cafetier store every type of plant base milk in their pantry just in case someone ask for an off-menu variation? It is not either the job of the waiter to run at the shop to find oat milk.

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It’s a real “I like pancakes” moment here.

No one said the waiter should run to the store. But making a reasonable request for a reasonable ingredient for a coffee is… reasonable.

No one is sending the waiter anywhere.

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in case someone ask for an off-menu variation?

Stuff like a plant-based alternative shouldn’t even be “off-menu”. The problem already starts here.

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The French are right. When you have fabled cuisine, lauded all over the world as the gold standard… you get resistant to change. And rightfully so.

Putain, non, is indeed the proper response to said question.

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So France is intolerant towards lactose intolerant people and towards those with specific ethical dietary preferences. And that rightfully so! Be an asshole towards others! It’s “in” these days and Paris has been known for being trendy. /s

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France is intolerant towards people who, instead of having something brilliant that they can have, would rather have a bad imitation of something that they can’t have. You’re not getting judged or discriminated against for being lactose intolerant, you’re getting judged for being béotien and not discriminated against, but educated. By being served better food than what you ordered.

That or they just plainly don’t have it on the menu.

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serving better food than you ordered.

Lmao, the animal cruelty brain washing is real. Oat milk is just better in every single way in coffee.

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Don’t be weak.

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So about 2/3 of humanity is weak. My goodness, this arrogance!

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Knowing ones limitations does not make one weak.

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Lactose intolerant people can drink black coffee, non?

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Yes.

If you can’t drink milk, don’t drink milk. Drink the coffee without the milk. Or drink water or wine or tea or whatever else they serve.
When did a lack of little luxury accommodations like these milk substitutes become intolerance?

Does stocking milk ethically require that you stock alternatives for those who want something like milk, but can’t have it?

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So? I’m sorry but I don’t get how that’s related to the discussion.

Sure, they can. It’s just that there’s no need to feel offended at someone asking for a milk alternative.

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It’s a French thing, you wouldn’t understand it

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French supermarkets all have very large and wide selection of “free from” style products for allergies and intolerances - gluten free, milk free. Plus vegan and vegetarian. In fact it would put most supermarkets in the US to shame. I also expect that many cafes in Paris cater for people with allergies.

So it’s not that. More likely it’s a surly waiter, or a tourist asking for something which is not on the menu and being upset by the answer.

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The milk goes through the coffee machine. If they do that they effectively need two machines (or sets of machines), one with lactose and one without. It’s not simply a question of having some oat milk in stock

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Tabernac!!!

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The French would not say that. They swear, but the religious swears are the domain of the Quebecois. Anyway, surprised the waiter even said, “non.” I’m my experience more likely to say they didn’t understand you and then ignore you.

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I think this is why I’m hesitant to travel there, i can’t handle snobs.

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The Fr*nch hate Parisians too.

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It’s hard to describe but it’s not snobbery. The French are just themselves and I honestly love them for it. I’d heartily recommend a visit.

I was there one time for work and decided I’d have a steak. Well I know they cook steak rarer than elsewhere so hoping for medium I ordered well done.

Terrible mistake. I got what was basically a lump of raw meat that should have had “get fucked” stamped on it and I felt like I brought it on myself.

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They aren’t real snobs because they don’t look down on you, it is in most cases not about you personally. They just think their culture is superior which sounds very arrogant but below that is just plain old narcasism. Also historically they’re are from ‘the cultured part of europe’ and had to deal with the basic lowlife from England (have you eaten their food?), the Dutch (have you seen their clothes?) and the Germans (have you seen what their homes). It’s like how the Romans looked at the Germanic tribes they just like superficial stuff like pretty food on pretty tables wearing pretty dresses. There are plenty of places people will treat you much worse and above all this is just a stereotype which is true on the one hand but there are a lot of different people living in France just like in any other country. Also they have crêpes.

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Sure they don’t look down on you, they just think they are superior…

Get the fuck outa here

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If you’re gonna reply at least the whole comment dude

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Ah crêpes, the cheap version of Blinis. /j

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Based

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Every morning: A double-shot espresso with a small’ish blob of sweetened condensed milk, a few drops of vanilla extract and a teaspoon of brown sugar.

Heaven.

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Why is it in snow? Too hot for you?

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Thought it would make for a cool pic. Was still plenty hot!

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I’m just teasing you. :)

BTW, love the mug, I used to live near Seattle. :)

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Is this ice coffee or are you trying to break your mug?

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It was for a few seconds. Mug is fine. :)

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Good to hear. It is good looking. You should be careful though. A few second can be enough.

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How do you keep your condensed milk from hardening between servings?

In my area they come in tin cans, so there’s too much to use it all up before it starts to thicken

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Can you get it in the metal toothpaste tubes?

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Never heard of that before, is that a thing in your area?

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I’d try cellophane with a rubber band on top of the can, stored in the fridge, take it out an hour before you want to use it, but that’s need some refinement

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Could you portion and freeze it? Is an ice cube’s worth too much? This sounds amazing and I want to do it ♥️

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I refrigerate it. I use so little that it barely cools the coffee when I put it in. It’s really no different than creamer. It’s just thicker. So it makes the brew creamier.

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I’m not going to shame anyones coffee choices but hard no from me.

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Fair. But it’s what I like!

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