Alt text: a post from @lolennui.bsky.social that says: Once my German friend asked what creative people do without arts grants and other support in the US and I felt like a parent trying to explain to their kid that the puppies can die sometimes

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They have seen what happens when you don’t let an aspiring artist grow professionally, and perhaps continue their education, for instance, in a place like the Vienna Academy of Fine Arts

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Yes, Germans were Nazis. A round of applause for rehashing the joke for the billionth time.

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You got my upvote! Fuck the reddit trope of constantly bringing the same punchline over and over and expecting gold or whatever.

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Many still are, just mention Palestine to them.

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I assume from context that you mean they support Palestine and are against Israel’s genocide… Which doesn’t make them Nazis… Actually kinda makes them not Nazis… Not sure how/why it’s possible that Israel turned into Nazis, but they did.

Correct me if I misread the context

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14 points

perhaps you’re right, too predictable. Am I the baddie?

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I didn’t see it a “Germans were nazis” joke as much as a “Every country has its crazies, Germans do now care for theirs” joke.

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5 points

I’m not sure it was a joke.

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To this day Germans are afraid of all painters because these guys are just another Holocaust waiting to happen.

… Is what you are saying. Not very funny.

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Not very funny

I respectfully disagree

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18 points

Nah lmao Adolf was a talentless hack. The man had absolutely no understanding of angles. Have you seen his paintings? They suck.

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22 points

Nobody falls out of the crib painting Rembrandts. Maybe if he was allowed to go to school it would have been different.

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European people: But… but what if we had a system of medical care for puppies, so that they do not die so often?

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18 points

That’s Communism. Jesus hates that.

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42 points

US Elite: but how does that make me money

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By selling pet insurance, I suppose? Though I guess that requires that the puppies be owned by someone fortunate enough to afford it.

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Hey guys, I figured out we can sell the insurance and then not pay anyone’s costs. This literally cannot go tits-up.

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Honestly, why doesn’t Europe have universal veterinary? That will drive Americans nuts.

(Source: Am American)

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14 points

Kristi Noem: hold my Cosmopolitan.

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18 points

What do creative people do in Germany to support themselves?

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Art?

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22 points

Study liberal arts for free while getting bafög or a side job to pay for your living costs. I think that’s more what the post is about. And there are also tons of grants.

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I think the point is not so much about the actual occupation, but about the system fucking them a bit less.

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If you have some free time and aren’t easily depressed, go ahead and look up the backgrounds of your favorite, recently ascendant artists. Many, if not most of them come from privileged backgrounds, have wealthy spouses, trust funds, or familial industry connections.

And while I personally don’t think that such advantages necessarily diminish the importance of their art, just think of how much more potentially moving and profound work we’ll never see just because the people who should be making it never got chance to develop, since they’ve been too busy just trying to keep a roof over their heads.

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If you want to see art though you can just ask a computer to make it for you

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Boooo, that will never compare to the personal satisfaction of honing a craft.

Edit: machine generation can be fun but I promise it’s not as fulfilling as finding something you love doing purely for the sake of it and watching your progress over years.

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4 points

Yeah honing the craft of which key words to use

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And where did that computer get the artwork it pieced together?

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Someone is going to say the same way a flesh artist does. But I think it’s more than synthesis of what a person sees, its their lived experience

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11 points

This is how societies fall. Everyone just trying to keep a roof above their heads.

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11 points

I was a very talented artist and musician growing up and all through high school, from a nice poor family.

Had to join the army and become an engineer, no trust fund to write books and make music. Luckily at this stage in my life both are possible in my free time, but wished I could do other things than engineer.

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20 points

More than that, you’d get better diversity in motifs and techniques if you expand the population base to a representation of society.

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58 points

I’ve thought this for a long time about other things. it’s truly a shame.

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45 points

We could have cured cancer years ago but the scientist grew up poor and ended up working the graveyard shifts in the mines.

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Have you seen S4 of The Boys?

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81 points

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.

~ Stephen Jay Gould

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Well also because of this we only see a very small representative sample with the art that does end up making it out into the open.

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29 points

They go to Hollywood and write a fifth sequel to a 20 years old series that no one cares about.

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24 points

Not without nepotism you don’t

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And shoot or edit parts of it in germany to get some of those arts grants

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