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Media keeps saying “criminal.” Exercising Constitutional rights does now make anyone criminal, natural born citizen or not. I gave up on mediaite being unbiased long ago, but we need to call out language of complicity.

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People forget that all the people the Nazi’s put in camps were also criminals. According to Nazi propaganda, they were responsible for the deaths of millions of Germans in WW1, for impoverishing hardworking Germans in the Great Depression and for terrorism in resistance to the Nazi regime.

No regime ever has admitted to locking up an innocent person. No dictator has ever said “Yeah, I put innocent people in jail”.

This is why we have separation of powers. The executive branch has zero authority to call anyone a criminal. Only the independent court system has that authority.

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This is why we have separation of powers

Had

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Oddly enough, Trump’s DOJ did straight up admit they sent an innocent guy in to El Salvador, and said they can’t get him back.

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No, no… they didn’t say they couldn’t get him back. They said they don’t have to, even though the supreme court upheld the district court order to facilitate his return. In a rare unanimous decision I might add. They’re not even trying to pretend they care what the courts say at this point.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-defy-supreme-court_n_67fd3ad6e4b0c8069e85c34e

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They also didn’t say he was innocent, the opposite actually. The official narrative is that he’s super guilty of a million crimes, he was just “administratively” deported incorrectly, however the deportation is still serendipitous and deserved.

Obviously, he’s innocent. That’s clear for anyone except the most die-hard MAGA cultist. So, like, the average FOX viewer

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Surely if presidents are able to appoint supreme court justices, there has never been separation of powers? And is that not a big part of why we’re in this mess now?

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You also need the Senate, not just the president.

But Republican senators have abdicated their duties and voters have not replaced them.

That’s why we have this mess.

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Paragraph 175 of the German code made homosexuality illegal. It had already been illegal under Weimer and the Reich before, with varying degrees of enforcement. The Nazis strengthened it, started going after even non penetrative sex.

Pink triangle prisoners were among the lowest of the low, similar to Jews. The goal was to work them to death, in the brick works. Theres a lot of horrific fucked up sexual sadism when you read these accounts. (Having sex with a man is only gay if you love him, I guess)

Then, when the camps were liberated:

The American policy toward gay inmates in the US-controlled zone of occupation was based on the Handbook for Military Government in Germany Prior to Defeat or Surrender, which was compiled by the Combined Chiefs of Staff of the US Military in 1944. Part of the Handbook was dedicated specifically to directing American troops how to classify and handle the large number of concentration camp survivors. The policy for those interned based on criminal actions stated, “Ordinary criminals with a prison sentence still to serve will be transferred to civil prisons.” Since many pink triangle prisoners had been convicted of violating Paragraph 175, a law of the German Criminal Code that predated the Nazi regime, the Americans also classified them as criminals. Therefore, those who had not finished serving their sentence were often transferred to prisons.

Homosexuality remained illegal in West Germany until the 70s. This also meant that there weren’t even accounts of the things that happened in those camps, because the social stigma didn’t go away…

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We’ve already seen the creep: first it was violent illegal immigrants, then it was any illegal immigrants, then it was immigrants waiting for due process on their case, then it was green card holders - not necessarily a lot of them, but enough to establish precedents and see how far they can get.

Now they’re saying “violent US citizen-criminals” - but they run the state that determines whether you’re a criminal and how violent your crimes was. Remember all those videos of non-resisting people being screened at by the cops “Stop resisting!”; remember bills in Florida and other states to label trans people sex offenders - that’s what we’re up against. Any resistance or non-conformity can and likely will be punished.

"First they came for … "

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they’re even inventing new language for it: “homegrowns”

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I think it’s not new. “homegrown terrorist” -> “homegrowns”.

I’m speculating they’re going to use that angle. Using precedents set by The War on Terrorism ™ to justify the next steps. The 50501 movement needs to be preparing organized legal supports for anyone who gets disappeared. I bet this is who they are going after next. Summer is coming. The protests are ramping up. What if it’s as soon as the April 19th event.

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The resistance is preparing for more than legal support I think

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Also worth mentioning that they’ve only been snatching people off the street, meaning people who didn’t have any active warrants. If they did have warrants, they probably would have been arrested already. They’re not deporting people who are already in prison. At this point, “criminal” means anyone suspected of a crime, and that suspicion extends to any kind of criminal record, even if you’ve already served time.

Obviously, they’re going to drop the “criminal” pretense soon enough, but they will start grabbing ex-felons first. I’m terrified for members of my family who absolutely fit the description of these kinds of targets: ex-felons with tattoos who look vaguely brown.

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Literally just having a tattoo–even without having any criminal history–is enough to be sent to the gulag.

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They send Mario’s brother and that might be the spark.

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This is Lemmy, not Reddit. You can say Luigi Mangione. I’d say that would be my last straw but I’ve long since broken. I just don’t have direction.

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Feel like I’ve been saying this a lot recently, but it’s pertinent:

Camp Auschwitz was in Poland, not Germany.

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I’m a firm believer that if we only accepted art based on the morality of the artist, the whole world would be a bleak shade of grey.

Gotta separate the two. You can say “X was an incredible artist and I appreciate their work, but holy shit were they a terrible human.”

We can acknowledge the spectrum of the human and let the good parts into the world and still shun the bad.

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I think that’s an easier argument to make with someone who is dead, like H.P. Lovecraft. It’s a different story when the artist is still alive and actively profiting off the work you are consuming.

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I would argue that it is not ethically possible to separate art from artist when consumption of their art can provide them any material benefit. If they’re dead, it’s a lot less likely to be problematic. Plus, there are plenty of great artists and writers out there who are not TERFs, nazis, or generally awful. Refusing them patronage is a double ethical failing of both lending aid to awful people and refusing to support smaller artists who have a harder time making a living when competing with the ethically bankrupt.

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  1. Ep 5.
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Fuck you, Trump. Make yourself an enemy to all. We will not back down.

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i upvoted you and the french guy that got banned. you’re both right. you bring the energy we need but he does make valid points. the left has been bullied far too much without fighting back over the last 10 years. some criticism is due.

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A lot of criticism is due. But I, myself, am not the establishment Democrats. Taking it out on me in a Lemmy echo chamber isnt doing much to help the cause. In fact, it makes me so pissed that everyone is doubling down on generalizations. It just goes to show humans are humans, it doesnt matter what side you are on, hate is always strong.

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Most people dont want to live in an opressive society. There is only right and wrong now, not right vs left.

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Oh keep downvoting. and keep talking big game. and keep not even getting up from your desk chair in your computer room/bedroom to do anything other than bathroom/eat.

Americans love to talk shit about other nations being pussies. Now your president is threatening to send your fellow citizens who are democrats to el Salvador prisons to die. in reality. will you post another status? downvote my post? or actually act?

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Americans love to talk shit about other nations being pussies. To be fair, we also love to talk about how brave and special big boys we are. We then run around afraid of everything, but I’m sure those two attitudes are not related.

Our national anthem “home of the brave” is hilariously sad. We got attacked once in 2001 and we’ve been shitting all over ourselves ever since.

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Only fascists themselves try this hard to waste our time.

Get fucked, buddy. You’re an asshole. Your opinions are that of an asshole. You’re out here talking to yourself; it’s pathetic. I won’t answer any response you have to this, I’ll just block you.

Espouse your hate all you want; you’ll get the same reaction 100% of the time.

Edit: the dissent to this post you see below is purely fascists trying to waste your time.

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And we’ll keep watching the USA fall. While you do nothing but post comments and downvotes. We’ll be here taking insults from him and defending Ukraine and nato treaties. While you all post, and downvotes. And order ubereats. And work. And voice super angry opinions in comment sections. Keep it up guys!

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Don’t cut yourself on all that edge, kid.

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huh? its edgy to suggest you fight in the streets to prevent american citizens being sent to el salvador prisons to die? uh…. in my country thats way past the point of a general strike and riot

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Look, Idk what I did to you, but I got more going on than just Lemmy. Sorry you dont see Sanctus out there IRL, you wont. I dont look like this.

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Lmao. This 🤡

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My Great Grandmother shot and killed an officer that was taking her family away to a concentration camp. Is that where we’re heading?

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It’s a pretty good likelihood that stuff like that is in our future.

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guns

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That’s where you are I think.

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guns

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Heading? The early stages of the Holocaust we’re precisely that.

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guns

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We’re there. Be ready to fight when they come.

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Headed? No. We’re there. If men in masks are telling you they’re police and trying to stuff you in a van, that’s it. You get cuffed. You’re dead. Buy a gun while you can. Make your life cost a life preferably more. Don’t let them put you in a camp or ghetto. Not a bad idea to go to a large gun shop in a state with next to no gun laws, find a person window shopping guns, strike up a conversation, and see if you can arrainge a third party sell. Then they don’t know to be weary of you.

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