If you told people in the 90s about the rise of Chatgtp and AI, and then told them that AIPAC had control over both parties and was forcing them to support genocide…
I agree that she should, though I kind of wonder how realistic it is that she will before her official nomination. Last thing we need is AIPAC getting triggered at such a precarious moment and trying to turn the table over.
I don’t know everything about her views on Israel, other than she’s signaled she’s uncomfortable with Biden’s zealotry in the past and has been very quiet. But she will probably need to address the issue before the election, she needs to be percieved as distinct enough from Biden to get back the people in places like Deerborn, MI and such. A major reason Biden abandoned his run was because the Uncommitted vote just wasn’t going away.
I’m personally willing to accept Biden stepping down as a win for the party and a blow to zionists, to me it’s enough of a referendum on his zionist policies for me to stomach a compromise on Harris. But I’m not arab american and I don’t have family in Palestine, so I would still understand people who won’t accept anything but stark condemnation by Harris.
I am not big on Harris but if she mirrors Biden on everything except Israel I will be extremely happy with her.
I wouldn’t say extremely happy, I think he’s too fixated on corporate welfare at the expense of progressive policy, but it’d be good enough as a stop gap.
She definitely needs to be more aggressive on climate change mitigation though, as far as I’m concerned it would be hard for a president to be too radical in that regard. Biden should’ve been pushing hard for the Green New Deal. Putting aside all other political battles against fascism, we are in deep trouble with the climate.
Of course there are a lot of things I would like her to do as well. I’m simply stating she is a lukewarm candidate but if all I got was a Biden replica that took a stand against genocide I would be happy with her presidency.
I think there is a real issue with Americans that want the moon and if they don’t get it they throw a tantrum.
I would love for her to lower the national debt, fix climate change, stop our dependence on oil, fix the housing shortage. I could keep going. My point is I know even accomplishing 1 of those would be extremely difficult so I would accept Biden 2.0.
Last thing we need is AIPAC getting triggered at such a precarious moment
Yeah, the last thing we need is others making their own decisions based on truth.
Firstly, AIPAC has no relationship to the truth, they’re only there to disrupt the truth.
And no one said she shouldn’t be honest about her positions, but it’s still politics and we can all pretty much guess where she stands on Israel already; not as far left as anyone wants her to be, but not as right-wing as Biden/Trump. That’s the best deal we’re getting this cycle as far as I’m concerned.
But again, I’m not going to tell anyone who feels they can’t vote for Harris if she’s not strong enough in her condemnation of Israel that they need to vote for her. I just spent the last 6 months being told that I need to accept Biden’s genocidal policies and it’s pointless to threaten the party with a non-vote, I would never turn around and do that to other voters because it’s bullshit.
Firstly, AIPAC has no relationship to the truth, they’re only there to disrupt the truth.
I understand. Because you disagree with their message whatever goes.
And no one said she shouldn’t be honest about her positions
You just recommended she engage in propaganda to thwart the propagandists.
I didn’t read the rest because the core of what you’re saying is rotten.
Sky urged to change color to Green.
Stop making this an election issue. It’s not. You’re just helping Trump
“Stop complaining about starving children being blown to pieces because I want to win!”
Having your tax dollar fund an active genocide is an issue for many of us
This is the issue for me. I care about other things too, but I won’t vote for someone funding a genocide.
I’m hoping I can throw my support behind Kamala (if she is the nominee). She seems to be a less blindly pro-Israel than Biden, but I’ll feel better if she confirms it.
I’ll understand if she has to wait until after the convention before declaring a stance.
The US was founded on genocide. Right here, on this soil. And everyone at the time went along with it in the name of Manifest Destiny. But it didn’t end there. The US either directly or indirectly enabled genocide around the world through most of its history.
What happens when you can’t support Kamala? And Trump wins? He absolutely supports genocide and will help it along at a scale we’ve yet to see in Palestine. And worse. And he’ll bring problems directly to you, in your own home.
Would you trade millions of dead men, women, and children in Palestine for millions of dead men, women, and children in Palestine, other countries, and here at home as well?
Because I don’t see what you have to gain by helping Trump win.
Except you don’t have a choice, so it isn’t. The only election issues are ones that you can participate in. The US will sell arms to Israel. That’s not going to stop, no matter who is elected. How about we elect the person who may not actively encourage them to use them relentlessly on civilians. That’s an issue you get to vote on.
What right do you have to tell people what issues are important to them when they are deciding who to vote for? What about Muslim voters? Should they just forget about the genocide because you said so?
She already had my vote… If she trully stops the US from supporting a Genocide by sending money and weapons to Israel, then she has my full support.
No presidential candidate is going to do more than lip service until the situation there changes drastically. From a political standpoint, this is only an issue at all for the under 30 crowd. Even then, it’s almost exclusively an issue for the demographics that are going to vote democrat or just stay home, most are smart enough to realize that the other side would be worse. Even if the youth turnout somehow doubled, this probably still wouldn’t make up for how deeply deeply unpopular the Palestinian government is with every other demographic. Anyone who is old enough to remember when the current organization in charge first got going is looking at the younger generations like they are insane.
She’s much more likely to just be more generically silent and passive on the issue now that her exposure is higher. I would bet she actually dials it back even more than she did on her last speech.