House Republicans have voted down an effort to block immigration enforcers from using federal resources to detain or deport U.S. citizens.

During a House Judiciary Committee meeting on Wednesday, Democrats tabled amendments to a sweeping budget bill that President Donald Trump has dubbed “one big, beautiful bill.”

One amendment introduced by Representative Pramila Jayapal, the Democrat from Washington state, sought to make clear Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) cannot detain or deport U.S. citizens under any circumstances. GOP lawmakers killed that amendment.

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41 points

The question is. If you got to choose between the two. Which would you choose. Democrats are awful, but imagine how nice it would have been for nothing to happen. Ukraine and Palestine not become worse. Our allies not alienated. Roving squads of redcaps not on the street kidnapping innocent people, AND THEN FORCING THE PUBLIC TO PAY FOR THEIR BONDAGE IN A FORIEGN NATION. DENIED JUSTICE. Nothing, man; what a dream.

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I have always thought that when a professional does his job properly, you don’t even realize he’s there.

He’s doing what NEEDS to be done.

I have 138 “pet” names for Donald. None of them are flattering.

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To defend the democrats, it’s pretty hard to get anything done when the right wing will basically say “no” to whatever the dems put their name on. Half of a dems job is fixing the shit that got broke when the republicans were in office.

True, they could push a lot harder to the left. But let’s be realistic, if they did they would lose at the polls because the US is like 75% center or right.

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Most Americans are, as you estimate, center-to-right, but that’s because America has no political party of the left, so lefty ideas are simply unknown to 90% of us. When genuine leftyism is spoken aloud by candidates who actually believe what they’re saying — AOC or Sanders and very few others — it’s very nearly undefeated.

America is center-to-right the same way someone who’s never eaten kiwi fruit thinks kiwi fruit looks icky. Give 'em a bite of kiwi, though, and they’ll be kooky for kiwi for life.

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True, they could push a lot harder to the left. But let’s be realistic, if they did they would lose at the polls because the US is like 75% center or right.

Pandering to the center right is NOT effective. They need to have the courage to stop being afraid of alienating the people who aren’t going to vote for them anyway and make some actual change happen.

Republican-lite isn’t selling these days.

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It’s ironic since progressive policies are hugely popular, even with independents and Republicans. Yet people still insist that ‘most the country is right-leaning,’ because they conflate support for the Democratic Party with support for progressives

If the Democrats ran on those progressive policies instead of neoliberal ones, they wouldn’t have this problem of being unpopular

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I keep seeing so many people who claim to be on the left saying Democrats could win if they just supported us. Which sounds great. But then one has to wonder. Have we shown them that? We need to be the ones to bring the fight to the democrats. We’ve passively and complacently let National parties consolidate power for Generations now. And yet we pretend to be confused of when they don’t represent us for some reason.

As someone reasonably autistic that has to mask a significant amount to get through the day. I’m not candidate material. But I would I.T. the fuck out of shit for a local campaign willing to show local and National Democrats how to fight.

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I love how the “you have to vote for us every time no matter how far to the right we go” wing of the party demands decades of patient voting for their complicit republican-lite candidates before they’ll listen to their left, but they fall all over themselves trying to please republicans who will never vote for them.

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Check out Rebellion PAC if you want to help bring democrats around to sensible policy and making sure it gets passed.

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6 points

Very true. What irks me most about voters and politicians is the voters only complain about them during an election. We need constant pressure on them. Make them answer real questions.

Have you watched one of the presidential debate videos? The person asking questions is like, “what color is the sky?” And both parties start talking about taxes. We need some to say, “answer the fucking question,” and we need voters to refuse the candidates who cannot.

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People were very outspoken about the whole supporting genocide thing. The party made sure to shut them out. People were also very outspoken about Biden being too senile to run again and the party instead gaslighted everyone with claiming that pointing out the most evident and obvious truth would in fact be a malicious scheme to help Trump. Only when it became impossible to lie about it for them, they quickly switched Harris in.

And when people pointed at the party loosing to Trump again, they came up with all sorts of reasonings including hating on the minorities that felt betrayed by the party for not being blindly loyal to them.

And now we are seeing them still supporting Trump in various ways and fighting teeth and nails to keep any progressives out of power in the party.

As long as you say you are willing to vote for them, they will not listen. They take your vote for granted and they rather help to turn the US into full fascism than listen to normal folks who don’t want their life to become worse and worse every year to make some billionaires richer.

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More like 50% can’t be bothered because they “aren’t political”

23% are GOP single issue voters who with vote their party till the day they die for that one thing (guns, god, babies, etc.)

27% have some assortment of center to left values and with flake easier than Tesla paint if any one of them is not met

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I don’t think it’s about god and guns and babies anymore. I seriously think they know it’s the party of pain and they like to watch pain inflicted on others. Trump is not about god, gun, or babies. He’s just about doing whatever he wants. I think that arouses his voters.

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Kamala supported genocide tho. /s

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