The American consumer is a fucking idiot, this has a high chance of success as people forget about Elon and go back to buying them.
I mean, in fairness, do we have any qualms with the rest of the company? Elon was directly responsible for pretty much all of the cyber truck decisions. But the regular Tesla’s, aside from Elon prohibiting lidar and making false claims about self driving, are pretty decent. Without him, lidar might get implemented, the cyber truck will probably be scrapped, and real engineers will have their voices heard again.
Isn’t that kind of what we want from a company? To realize their errors and remove the cancerous parts?
Tesla was garbage before Elon came out as a Nazi. The quality control is non existent and has been.
Yes, and that’s another reason the company is failing, and I won’t buy a car from them. But, that’s not the point here, the point is Musk’s stupid antics are having major consequences for him. The only value he’s had for the company for years is as a mascot. The company succeeded so far as it has in spite of Musk, not because of him. Same for SpaceX.
Why do you want a redemption arc for this overvalued company so bad? You holding a bag?
not OP, I wouldn’t mind a redemption arc, they were pretty f’ing cool before he got there.
Everything that was on the market before tesla was a facimilie of a thousand other cars before it. They did something (for better or worse) different. Learning what not to do has power in itself.
After they took the leap, all of a sudden a lot of other companies started throwing out prototypes. I don’t think the Volt I drive today would have happened if they didn’t go there first.
Of course things got a lot worse as Elon butted in further and they started pushing QC out and cybertruck BS in.
I think they’re likely irredeemable, but I’d like to see another company follow in their footsteps and keep pushing the tech further, not in a garbage dumpster direction, but in a simpler and more effective direction.
They’re overvalued in the triple multiples compared to other American car companies because they’re a meme stock and halfway ran on government subsidies we paid for rather than putting it into education or social causes.
A step in the right direction isn’t good enough when there’s miles to tread.
A step in the right direction isn’t good enough when there’s miles to tread.
So all or nothing? Then you’ll get nothing.
I think you’re probably giving a potential new CEO too much credit. You really think that Elon will just relinquish control over his company and let the CEO do whatever? Not a chance.
He will still have a shitload of shares. I don’t need to get into the nitty-gritty detail of whether I hate the company or its products; his stock in it is what allowed him to buy the election for Trump, so fuck Tesla.
But did Tesla facilitate that or was Tesla worn like a puppet by an investor(Elon). There’s a distinct difference and what I’m asking. Do we blame every company that gets gutted by Venture Capitalists? Do they have no path to redemption?
Calling a company, which actively vendor-locks pretty much the whole car using their propiatery software while having the worst warranty ever, pretty decent is beyond me.
Especially a company belonging to the car lobby.
do we have any qualms with the rest of the company
Let’s say they can him. Let’s say he is somehow compelled to sell off stock until he’s a minitority shareholder. His ego would not let that go. To say he’s still filthy fucking rich would do a disservice to filth. You can’t separate him from this mess. He’d just come back.
If he just disappeared tomorrow, no chance of repurchasing it, just maybe but we need to see:
- Unions everywhere
- OSHA up their ass
- Put some fucking LiDAR on the cars
- Reinvent quality control
- Reinvent a safety program so that people can’t burn to death locked in their car.
- Fully support individual resale.
- Fully support 3rd party service centers.
- Every car is modified until it gets at least a three-star crash rating
- All features are purchased with the car, if your seat has a heater, you can use it for free.
- One feature is “we don’t sell” or “store your data in a way that can identify you”
- Car updates are transparent and unless a true safety hazard, optional.
- No more of this screwing around with odometers to speed past warranty availability and everyone gets 30k more miles and another year because they were assholes.
I understand completely why you’d want Elon to fail, but why would you want Tesla to fali?
Endless government subsidies inflating the stock astronomically above any other normal car company, as paid for with American tax dollars.
As a company, horrible QC and manufacturing standards compared to even the worst of their peers, and the insistance on self-driving tech that doesn’t even need to exist for their vehicles to function.
Tesla is a shitcoin turned into a company.
Because they’re not magically taking away his stock shares. If Tesla succeeds so does Musk, no matter what position he holds. Nothing changes when oligarchs who will happily take food out of children’s mouths to enrich themselves and send US citizen children with Cancer away never suffer any consequences.
And that’s BEFORE we talk about the fact that Tesla cars suck ass now compared to similar segments from competitors. They’re a net negative in the industry and in their influence on humanity. EVs are going to continue to take up more market share worldwide without them.
