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33 points

The American consumer is a fucking idiot, this has a high chance of success as people forget about Elon and go back to buying them.

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I understand completely why you’d want Elon to fail, but why would you want Tesla to fali?

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I mean, in fairness, do we have any qualms with the rest of the company? Elon was directly responsible for pretty much all of the cyber truck decisions. But the regular Tesla’s, aside from Elon prohibiting lidar and making false claims about self driving, are pretty decent. Without him, lidar might get implemented, the cyber truck will probably be scrapped, and real engineers will have their voices heard again.

Isn’t that kind of what we want from a company? To realize their errors and remove the cancerous parts?

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Tesla was garbage before Elon came out as a Nazi. The quality control is non existent and has been.

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Yes, and that’s another reason the company is failing, and I won’t buy a car from them. But, that’s not the point here, the point is Musk’s stupid antics are having major consequences for him. The only value he’s had for the company for years is as a mascot. The company succeeded so far as it has in spite of Musk, not because of him. Same for SpaceX.

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He will still have a shitload of shares. I don’t need to get into the nitty-gritty detail of whether I hate the company or its products; his stock in it is what allowed him to buy the election for Trump, so fuck Tesla.

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But did Tesla facilitate that or was Tesla worn like a puppet by an investor(Elon). There’s a distinct difference and what I’m asking. Do we blame every company that gets gutted by Venture Capitalists? Do they have no path to redemption?

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We do, as he’s the biggest shareholder 🙃

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Calling a company, which actively vendor-locks pretty much the whole car using their propiatery software while having the worst warranty ever, pretty decent is beyond me.

Especially a company belonging to the car lobby.

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I think you’re probably giving a potential new CEO too much credit. You really think that Elon will just relinquish control over his company and let the CEO do whatever? Not a chance.

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His company? You say that like Elon owns Tesla. He doesn’t even have a controlling share.

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They’re overvalued in the triple multiples compared to other American car companies because they’re a meme stock and halfway ran on government subsidies we paid for rather than putting it into education or social causes.

A step in the right direction isn’t good enough when there’s miles to tread.

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A step in the right direction isn’t good enough when there’s miles to tread.

So all or nothing? Then you’ll get nothing.

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