That’s true. The US has been interfering in other country’s domestic affairs for decades. Organising the odd coup, overthrowing elected leaders. Suddenly people are shocked to learn that it can work both ways.

A country with strong democratic institutions are pretty resilient to these tactics. You might not trust the politicians, but you trust the officials, the military and the courts.

It seems that the US has dismantled trust in these institutions for a long time. It has let corporations run the show. So Russia and China have an easier task.

TBF we already started it ourselves

China is very much a socialist economy

The embarrassing thing is a lot of that disinformation was shared on social media networks that were created in the US.

Creating the tool that your enemy uses effectively against you is not a good look.

Mate, the Murdoch’s? America’s lap dog newspaper moguls.

They’re you’re mouth piece of shit trying to force Australia to be more like you sepppos

i believe russia be to blame, it kinda obvious weakeaning america helps putin, it has been his goal for 10years,.

And they do it to their citizens too…

…And we do it to other countries and we do it to our citizens.

You can’t condemn another country for what we’ve been actively doing considerably longer than them having never stopped credibly. Our house is made of that candy glass they use in movies in this particular arena.

The oligarchs and their increasingly captured government, including both parties, have been poisoning us against anything that isn’t hyper-capitalist greed enabling from the great depression to the McCarthy witch hunts into today. Very few Americans could define socialism or communism in any sense with a gun to their heads, but they’ve been misinformed into being filled with hate and/or dread when they’re uttered.

Name one world superpower that doesn’t actively engage in mass disinformation campaigns both within and without, I’ll wait. I’d also argue that like our general military, we certainly spend the most on our global Orwell machine. Our CIA, along with the KGB, are the OG playbooks other nations refer to when doing it themselves.

I don’t see anybody stopping you from saying anything you want to say, so stop playing the victim.

Trump is a uniquely American problem. You guys either elected him, or didn’t care enough to vote. Shit, his popularity is still almost 50% now even after he destroyed the economy.

Your argument is that the American people are so stupid that they were manipulated by foreign actors (TWICE) into electing an obvious fuckwit.

Well, ok, if you insist,

I am hoping the US splits apart, allowing the red states to destroy themselves. Conservatism is a cancer, and the condition would be easier to excise if it was a solid tumor.

Difficult to argue against, except America is doing this too us as well, and we don’t get a vote.

Only if you take what I said very literally. The Chinese and the Russians are concluding, I’m sure you would agree.