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Trump had to reverse his aggressive tariff rhetoric after CEOs from Walmart, Target, and Home Depot warned of empty shelves and higher prices due to supply chain disruptions.

Investors reacted negatively to his threats against Fed Chair Jerome Powell, prompting a market sell-off.

Trump backtracked, expressing optimism on a China trade deal and now denying plans to fire Powell.

Global markets remain volatile, and the IMF cited Trump’s trade war as a “major negative shock” to global growth.

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And they do it to their citizens too…

…And we do it to other countries and we do it to our citizens.

You can’t condemn another country for what we’ve been actively doing considerably longer than them having never stopped credibly. Our house is made of that candy glass they use in movies in this particular arena.

The oligarchs and their increasingly captured government, including both parties, have been poisoning us against anything that isn’t hyper-capitalist greed enabling from the great depression to the McCarthy witch hunts into today. Very few Americans could define socialism or communism in any sense with a gun to their heads, but they’ve been misinformed into being filled with hate and/or dread when they’re uttered.

Name one world superpower that doesn’t actively engage in mass disinformation campaigns both within and without, I’ll wait. I’d also argue that like our general military, we certainly spend the most on our global Orwell machine. Our CIA, along with the KGB, are the OG playbooks other nations refer to when doing it themselves.

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How does that make any of it right? And how does it negate my point?

So far you’ve said a lot of obvious things, none of which refute my point that this end is what Russia and China have been working towards.

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I’m saying that you can’t credibly go “you… You fucking shot me! What the fuck?!” at someone who shot you because you shot them a few seconds prior to that.

It doesn’t make it right. It’s wrong. But it’s also a non-sequitur for a serial killer to condemn another serial killer over the sanctity of life.

As an American, Americans have no business condemning other nations about misinformation campaigns until we clean our fucking house up and provide reparations to those both within and without who were hurt by our misinformation campaigns.

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Huh? I’m the American government now? I reserve the right to condemn any government, anywhere, for any reason. Especially when they make choices without my consent.

You speak emotionally, betraying that you know very little about the problems that truly need to be solved.

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So what you’re saying is, because America’s government is doing shady shit, American citizens have no right to call out other countries for the shady shit they’re doing?

Since you like your weird conversational analogies, that’s like you saying;

“China gets to shoot whoever the fuck they want because other countries have shot people!”

Two wrongs don’t make a right. It’s a dumb argument. Stop doing it.

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As an American, Americans have no business condemning other nations

Yeah, yeah, because there is absolutely no difference in degree between some of the heinous shit the US has done and that practiced on a daily basis by mafia states like Russia, or totalitarians like the jolly old USSR.

Two things can both be bad. And one instance of something bad can be worse than another. That’s nuance. Binary thinking is barely thinking at all.

I have friends who emigrated from Russia in the late 1970s. None of them said that things were worse in the US, despite the US’s many problems.

Having said all that, I agree we have to “clean our fucking house up,” though that might not mean the same thing to you that it does to others.

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