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17 points

agreed, never should have tried for the second bite.

however… dems now have an opportunity to own the news cycle from here until the election. if they do even a halfway decent job, we start trending from “narrow loss” -> “political landslide”.

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I don’t think all the messaging in the world can fix the reality that Biden hasn’t improved material conditions of the people who voted for him in 2020, or even gone to the mat fighting for them.

The only things he’s really gone around congress or the SCOTUS for is to deny more asylum seekers and give more weapons to Israel and Ukraine.

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Supporting unions so they got their demands for better conditions through, student debt forgiveness, everything his FTC appointment has been doing to fight monopolies, etc

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He absolutely has. We’re getting public transit built out. Caps on overdraft fees. Capped the price of insulin. Invalidated most non-compete clauses. Oh, and he didn’t encourage his supporters to attack the Capitol Building and hang Mike Pence.

Oh, and he didn’t get a bunch of Americans killed by Covid because he cared more about the stock market than people.

I’d also like to see Ukraine not fall to Russia.

That’s just what I can name of the top of my head. He was a better president than Obama.

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Yeah, Biden invested in long term improvement for the first time in a long time. Yeah it’s not paying out immediately, we’re struggling in part because we kept expecting immediate returns. It’s gonna stay a bit rough for a little while longer but it’s stabilizing with hope on the horizon.

Or we could cash out our savings again…

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We’re getting public transit built out

Nothing around me except wider highways, nor anyone I know. Unless the brightline is part of that, which is nice, but doesn’t compete with airfare and driving.

Caps on overdraft fees

lmao just get rid of them, people who have no money don’t need less penalties, they need no penalties. There is not a “medium overdraft fees” constituency who will vote against the dems if they get rid of overdraft fees.

Capped the price of insulin

See previous response. If you have the power to cap it, you have the power to make it free.

he didn’t encourage his supporters to attack the Capitol Building and hang Mike Pence.

Stop trying to make trump’s army of divorced Jet Ski dealers sound cool. Most Americans hate congress and Mike Pence.

Oh, and he didn’t get a bunch of Americans killed by Covid because he cared more about the stock market than people.

He literally ended the covid protections, told people not to wear masks, and a bunch of Americans did receive long-term injury or death from covid before they stopped counting.

I’d also like to see Ukraine not fall to Russia.

Because of our actions, Ukraine will never be safe within our lifetimes. Every bomb we send is a bad day for someone, statistically mostly civilians. Any stance except peace as soon as possible demonstrates that you care less about the lives of the actual people living in Ukraine than you do supporting imperialism.

We could have had peace with similar terms to what we can get now two years ago, and millions would be alive and in their homes right now. But instead we decided to fight Russia to the last drop of Ukrainian blood.

He was a better president than Obama.

The patron saint of drones, who halved black wealth to bail out the banks? The deporter-in-chief who paved the way for Trump? That’s not the flex you think it is.

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the current reality is not the future reality - thats their sell, basically obama “hope-ishness”. personally, I think it can work to keep trump out of office. this is a generational moment and the dems have it on their side.

so, with luck, we get to reject trump and, depending on the turnout, watch where progressives settle around.the seat of power.

between the dems and republicans, they have whittled down progressive representation, but its still there.

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thats their sell, basically obama “hope-ishness”

That works when you’ve had 8 years of Bush and are campaigning on free healthcare, ending the wars, federal legalization of cannabis. It works when you’ve had 4 years of Trump and everyone thinks the democrats will defund the police, provide free healthcare and college, abolish ICE, codify roe, pack the court, etc. Then when you fail to do any of that, you get the shit kicked out of you 2 years later.

The dems cannot campaign on hope when they’ve demonstrated that they will not give the people what they want.

This isn’t a messaging problem, it’s a “triangulating yourself to be 2 inches left of republicans and then acting surprised when your base doesn’t show up” for 30+ years problem.

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3 points

Whoever the candidate is, they have to avoid talking about Israel and use vague language on the issue. If they come out swinging for Israel I think it would not be a good look.

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The real powerplay if Trump loses would be to pass an amendment setting a maximum age to run for president. Maybe tie it to retirement age. Old enough to receive social security, too old to run. Ideally you make that apply to all political offices, but I’m not that optimistic. Not that I think there’s a snowballs chance in hell of this actually happening as that would be a sane and sensible thing to do and therefore antithetical to everything our current crop of politicians stand for.

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