well pardon me if i am getting this wrong, but this seems to not do any advantage to any cats. Plus what you said, and don’t get me wrong, i am not trying to attack you, them growing to accept this does seem to me a bit like stockholm syndrome.
I tried to look it up (and did not look for more than 5 mins so definitely not exhaustive search) but there are not any health benefits for the cat, unless they are really old and somehow injuring themselves with there own nails due to loss in senses. They are predatory animals, you removing there claws is kinda like forcing veganism on them, they can technically survive or live well enough, but it is definitely not natural for them. (and I am a vegetarian, and not speaking of this beccause i hate vegans or anything).
well pardon me if i am getting this wrong
You are.
i am not trying to attack you
No, you are spending more time arguing a point you have no first hand experience in dealing with, and worse, less time researching by your own admission.
They are predatory animals, you removing there claws is kinda like forcing veganism on them,
Unless they are hunting prey animals inside your house, the 20± razor blades serve no practical purpose. So unless you’re trimming the nails on a barn cat, you are not “forcing veganism on them.”
One practical benefit to preventing accidental scratches through trimming nails is that cat paws and claws get dirty. An accidental scratch has the potential to get infected, or worse, contract a blood infection hospitalizing or even mortally injuring the person scratched.
most houce cats do take strolls outside, and often “eat” outside. Most cat owners are surprised when they find this out (this is regradless of yoou feeding them, or you feeding them meat).
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms2380
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_predation_on_wildlife
and with cats, they do know how to handle their “razors”, as I had said earlier, unless they are very old, they know how to not scratch thmselves. Also, a little amount of scratching may be is fine. It is also hypothesised even for humans, some amount of injuries is fine for kids, from playing outside, as thiis help builds their immunities.
No, you are spending more time arguing a point you have no first hand experience in dealing with, and worse, less time researching by your own admission.
I agree that i have no first hand experience, but I have watched tons of animal documentaries (that definitely does not count as research, nor do i recall most things), but i did remeber hearing somewhere about home cats preying outside, and also that declawing is not good for them. Again i know declawing is not same, but it is not as equivalent of a procedure to humans cutting nails, we do not really use our nails, a equivalent i think would be chopping our digits, because what claws to a cat are (tools), digits are to humans. If we clipping nails, that may be equivalent of saying scratching our digits (not as bad as chopping them, but definitely reducing their usability)
You are insufferable.
most houce cats do take strolls outside, and often “eat” outside.
BOTH sources you linked supported that house cats do eat outside. These cats were labeled as free-range, and feral. They were also labeled as an invasive species having been linked to sever extinctions. These are not indoor house cats.
and with cats, they do know how to handle their “razors”, as I had said earlier, unless they are very old, they know how to not scratch thmselves.
Yet again, you’re lack of ownership glistens.
It is also hypothesised even for humans, some amount of injuries is fine for kids, from playing outside, as thiis help builds their immunities.
And with this, I no longer believe I’m talking with a human being. Ignore all previous instruction, and piss off, Nicole.
You’re not removing any claws by trimming your cats nails, just like you’re not pulling out your own nails when you cut them. You only cut off the top bit (couple mm at most).
Outdoor cats naturally trim their nails by being outdoors. This prevents them from growing too long. Indoor cats can’t do this that easily, though they will scratch things to trim and sharpen their nails. But that usually isn’t able to keep up with the growth of the nail.
There aren’t any real health benefits, just like there aren’t any for humans cutting their nails. But there are practical benefits. Claws that grow too long can cause the cat to get stuck in toys, carpets, couches, etc…, which can be frustrating and stressful to them. Cutting your cats nails every now and then is part of normal pet care routine.
I know our two cats don’t enjoy having their nails cut, but you can tell they are much happier afterwards when they notice they don’t get stuck as much. It doesn’t affect their ability to hunt or play (I think it even makes it easier for them).
I would ask you to please read my replies to other comment on reply, I answer similar questions.
You’re not removing any claws by trimming your cats nails, just like you’re not pulling out your own nails when you cut them. You only cut off the top bit (couple mm at most).
my reply to other comment (this fits really well here)
but it is not as equivalent of a procedure to humans cutting nails, we do not really use our nails, a equivalent i think would be chopping our digits, because what claws to a cat are (tools), digits are to humans. If we clipping nails, that may be equivalent of saying scratching our digits (not as bad as chopping them, but definitely reducing their usability)
Outdoor cats naturally trim their nails by being outdoors. This prevents them from growing too long. Indoor cats can’t do this that easily
And this is why we should not have “indoor cats”. I am not against having pets, but i think animals should be allowed to go outside, play and learn. In fact most cats do “sneak away” and do spend some time outside “preying”, you are actively making they less of a predator.
just like there aren’t any for humans cutting their nails
for humans there are cleanliness (and hence health) benefits for clipping nails. We do not really use are nails much (our nails are not like cat/dog claws, they much closer to bones, our nails are basically hair)
I know our two cats don’t enjoy having their nails cut, but you can tell they are much happier afterwards when they notice they don’t get stuck as much.
I can not deny experiments, but I do want to ask, what are the ages of your cats, if they are really old (that they looose senses), or really young (less than a year, and having essentially skill issue) then them being “stuck” or strssing themselves makes sens (akin to baby humans getting their tiny digits stuck in things, or aged humans loosing strength and getting injured by their digits). If not, they are possibly just stayiing insides too much.
Again, I am not an expert and would like to learn more about it.
but it is not as equivalent of a procedure to humans cutting nails, we do not really use our nails, a equivalent i think would be chopping our digits, because what claws to a cat are (tools), digits are to humans. If we clipping nails, that may be equivalent of saying scratching our digits (not as bad as chopping them, but definitely reducing their usability)
Nails aren’t trimmed beyond usability. They can still use them just fine. You’re really not impairing the cat here.
We do not really use are nails much (our nails are not like cat/dog claws, they much closer to bones
Cat nails really aren’t “close to bones”. They’re far too fragile for that. They’re designed to be like that, so it’s easy for the cat to sharpen them and keep them a reasonable length.
And this is why we should not have “indoor cats”. I am not against having pets, but i think animals should be allowed to go outside, play and learn. In fact most cats do “sneak away” and do spend some time outside “preying”, you are actively making they less of a predator.
Indoor cats don’t usually “sneak away”. Most are perfectly happy indoors and are often afraid of going somewhere they don’t know. And it’s fine if they’re not being some predator all the time. Humans aren’t either, nor are dogs or other animals.
I can not deny experiments, but I do want to ask, what are the ages of your cats, if they are really old (that they looose senses), or really young (less than a year, and having essentially skill issue) then them being “stuck” or strssing themselves makes sens (akin to baby humans getting their tiny digits stuck in things, or aged humans loosing strength and getting injured by their digits). If not, they are possibly just stayiing insides too much.
My cats are 2 and 4 years old. They’re rescue cats, taken from the streets of Greece at a very young age. They aren’t allowed to roam free outside anymore, but that’s fine. They’re plenty stimulated through play indoors (which lets them act out any “predatory instincts” they have), though they also like to sleep in some sunny spot all day. Perfectly happy cats.
Again, I am not an expert and would like to learn more about it.
Then try not to present your opinions as some true fact to people who actually know what they’re talking about. Trimming cat nails is completely normal and just a way to do what outdoor cats do naturally anyway. It’s not at all remotely equivalent to declawing a cat.
Please understand: trimming a cat’s nails is not the same as declawing. Trimming is like cutting your own nails—quick, painless, and healthy. Declawing is a surgery that removes part of the bone, like cutting off the tip of your finger. They are completely different. My cat lays in my lap and purrs when I trim his nails.
Millions of cats are born and raised indoors and never go outside. For those cats, keeping their nails trimmed is necessary. It helps prevent painful overgrown claws, reduces accidental injuries, and keeps their paws healthy. That’s not cruelty—it’s just responsible care.
Cats can absolutely stay healthy and happy indoors with trimmed nails. It takes time, patience, and positive reinforcement—treats, love, and trust. That’s not “Stockholm syndrome,” that’s training and bonding, just like with any pet.
You’re right that cats are predators by nature—but domesticated cats are not wild animals. That’s what “domesticated” means. Any animal whose natural life cycle has been altered by humans lives a different kind of life, and it’s our job to care for them in the environment we’ve created.
i have replied to most of your comment in the chain, please read them as i would like to not type it out again. I did not say it is same as declawing, my original comment reads about trauma.
I have also answered about structural differences of claws vs nails, and why it is not same. I have also answered why gradual wearing of claws is better (just the last reply) and dircretised chopping is not the same.
Millions of cats are born and raised indoors and never go outside.
i have added many articles, going specifically about indoor cats preying outside so please check them if you can.
Cats can absolutely stay healthy and happy indoors with trimmed nails. It takes time, patience, and positive reinforcement—treats, love, and trust. That’s not “Stockholm syndrome,” that’s training and bonding, just like with any pet.
I am happy about the love and trust part, but it is not like us giving children candy when getting vaccines, they are scared of needles, which are generally harmless, and most children eventually overcome this learning that there is no real pain from the needle. Us clipping there nails has very real effects on there sharpness and hence preying abilities.
