The Democratic Socialists of America pulled its endorsement of Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York this week, accusing the progressive congresswoman of being insufficiently supportive of the Palestinian cause and efforts to end the war in Gaza…

Her approach has increasingly strained her relationship with some of the left’s most strident critics of Israel. When she rallied last month in the Bronx with Senator Bernie Sanders and Representative Jamaal Bowman, dozens of pro-Palestinian demonstrators angry over her endorsement of Mr. Biden chanted “You’re a fraud, A.O.C.”

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It means AOC is an establishment liberal not a leftie.

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You have that 180° backwards. The establishment is sucking Bibi’s genocidal dick. AOC stands with Bernie in opposition to the genocide.

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The establishment is sucking Bibi’s genocidal dick. AOC stands with Bernie in opposition to the genocide.

Sanders has been a staunch supporter of Israel since his mayoral days. Its one of the issues where he diverges most heavily from his “lefty” base.

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No, he’s not. He’s one of if not the only Jewish lawmaker that is critical of Israel’s genocide.

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She advocates for keeping Genocide Joe instead of swapping him out. Her actions have disproven her words.

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There is a spectrum of political discussion that is more nuanced than that.

I too oppose the sale of arms to and have always opposed the apartheid state that Israel has built. If there’s any chance of replacing Biden and not ending up with Trump that is what I want.

I am however 100% certain that Trump will encourage an escalation and wholesale destruction of the Palestinian state and advocate for the rounding up of the Palestinian diaspora. Trump would empower Bibi to escalate to taking over Libya and Trump has openly advocated for war with Iran. Iran, one of the few countries rendering aid to Hamas right now.

Biden is misguided and naive that he thinks Bibi will not exterminate the Palestinians. Trump wants nothing more than to pave Palestine into an Amusement park. Don’t get this shit twisted.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-israel-gaza-finish-problem-rcna141905

https://www.vox.com/politics/353037/trump-gaza-israel-protests-biden-election-2024

https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/is-bidens-israel-policy-cynical-or-naive

https://www.usip.org/publications/2021/06/10-things-know-bidens-approach-israeli-palestinian-conflict

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The system will always co-opt individuals seeking to dismantle it. This is why reform is nearly impossible.

Edit: Thought experiment; think about what your price would be.

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I don’t even know if there is necessarily a price. I think on some level, people just start to realize certain issues take priority over others, especially when you’re fighting the opposing party. You have to compromise on some things. If she were out there cutting down Biden every day over Israel, it’s going to make it hard for her to get other things done. It’s also going to make it more likely that Trump wins. You have to pick your battles, rather than spending all of your political capital on a single issue that she won’t be able to have enough impact to actually change.

To a large extent, this problem is systemic. We have a two party system that doesn’t allow a ton of nuance. Also, politicians are involved, and politicians are always thinking about elections. I wish we could just vote on the issues themselves in our democracy.

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Exactly. 👍

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Lol. Lmao.

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